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03-17-2015 , 03:59 AM
7-handed

UTG limps, H (UTG+1) raises 20 with AKo, CO, BTN and UTG call

Flop (80): KT4r
UTG checks, Hero bets 60

Stacks: UTG - 350, H- 350, CO - 350, BTN - 150


9-handed

OMC UTG limper, 3 other limps, H has 95o in BB and checks

Flop (15): K99ssc
H bets 15, OMC calls

Turn (45): Jd
H bets 30, OMC calls

River (105): 3h
H bets 40 (hoping to get a call from OMC's KQ/KJ suited)

Beginning stacks: H - 300, OMC - 200


Maybe I should go slightly smaller in Hand 1 and slightly bigger in Hand 2?
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03-17-2015 , 11:10 AM
I am actually fine with both hands. H1 you still have three people in the hand and two people behind you. H2 I like each street.
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03-17-2015 , 11:23 AM
I think they are both fine, too.
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03-17-2015 , 12:18 PM
H1 (7 handed):

Most stacks are such that we won't be able to setup a comfortable SPR to stack off to postflop HU, so I'm fine with opening large at what looks to be a loose table just to try to narrow the field. If we're not going to narrow the field, then I'd consider limp/reraising. Sucks going to this flop 4ways, especially OOP to a couple of players, but that sometimes happens (although I'd try our best not to get ourselves into this situation).

Really tough spot now on the flop. We have a small SPR of 4, OOP, which means it will be very difficult not to play for stacks, but we just offered everyone close to 20x implied odds to stack us. I would probably feel committed against the shortstack Button, but against everyone else, ug. Sometimes in these spots I check just to see what happens, but since board does have some draws I'd probably lean towards betting. I would bet no more than 1/2 PSB and see what happens; anything more is building too big of a pot too quickly (although we're already in a difficult spot anyways).

Gdon'tgo4+waystotheflopinaraisedpotwithaTPhand,imo G
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03-17-2015 , 12:21 PM
H2 (9 handed):

I would take a bet/fold line the whole way. I might bet less on the flop so as not to build a hugenormous pot. I'm cool with the turn bet. On the river, it really comes down to what we think of OMC; if we think he shows up with a busted draw here a lot and is capable of betting it, I would check. But I'm guessing mostly OMC ain't capable of doing that, so I'm cool with targetting his Kx hands. The pot is small enough where we aren't committed and can bet/fold any reasonable amount; I probably go bigger to like 3/4 PSB which might make it look like we're the ones betting our busted draw.

ETA: I actually missed that OMC was shortish and SPR was 13 (I thought he had $300 like us). In this case, we have to make sure we don't bet too much on early streets such that we end up committing ourselves to the pot (unless we want to commit, which I don't believe we do). Therefore, I really think we should only be betting 1/2 PSB on the flop.

Gbutoverall,nicehand,imoG

Last edited by gobbledygeek; 03-17-2015 at 12:27 PM.
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03-17-2015 , 12:22 PM
Note: One hand per post please

Hand 1
PF: Fine
F: (4) handed. Pot is $84. SPR is 4 (BTN: 1.4). Bet size is fine. What's the question?

Hand 2
PF: Fine
F: (5) handed. Pot is $15. SPR is 13. Leading out is OK, especially since there is a flush draw. We must realize though, that it pretty much turns our hand face up. I don't think that OMC's limp UTG with a 9 in their range. KK could be in his range if he was the type to plan on limp/re-raising UTG.
T: Heads up. Pot is $45. OMC has $185 left Bet is OK. I'd just fire pot again.
R: Pot is $105. OMC has $155 left. I like either shoving to represent a busted flush draw or betting something like you bet so that a hand like KQ calls. The J is a good card for us becasue only the non-full house hands of A9 and Q9 beat us.

Last edited by Below Zero; 03-17-2015 at 12:27 PM.
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03-17-2015 , 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Javanewt
I think they are both fine, too.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ This.
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03-17-2015 , 12:46 PM
Both fine.
I'd bet a bit smaller on hand one as we don't want to encourage anyone to fold a weaker hand and no one is ever folding a better.

Also, getting stack in here is stupid simple, so no reason to blast away at the pot.
I'd prefer $45 - $55.
But then again, if people are calling with KJ for $60, then $60 is fine.

Hand 2 is good.
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03-19-2015 , 03:04 PM
I think they are both fine.

I would also bet slightly less on Hand 1

Hand 2 I'm sometimes checking the flop to get action on later streets from KQ and KJ hands.
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03-19-2015 , 06:40 PM
WP both hands.

Hand 1: I like flop bet size. Kx will call, and if villains have Tx, normally they only want to call one street, might as well get more value out of that one street.

Hand 2: I think I go a tad larger OTR, about 55. seems like a good K here alot
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