V1 is a decent reg, stuck 2bi and hasn't reloaded before this hand. $150 stack

V2 is a rec fish on a heater, he is making hands all over the place but isn’t good. Calling a lot pre and post flop. $800 stack

Hero is seen as pretty laggy, been caught bluffing in a big pot about 30 mins ago, has also shown down some big hands. $400 stack

This hand

Hero UTG with AQo and opens to $13

V1 3b to $40, V2 cold calls from BB, hero 4b to $180 (obviously trying to isolate v1)

V1 folds and V2 cold calls again

Flop K82r (~$400)
V2 checks. Hero? ($220 behind)

If you shove do you think he’ll fold a pair? What do you think his range is? Given that he clearly hates folding I would tend to check here but this is a great flop to bluff.

But if he calls with something like 55 shoving here is lighting money on fire.

I lean towards checking given the description.

Standard jam/reload, not awkward

Check, he's unlikely to fold better. Unfortunate spot.

Our reads have to be way off on "decent reg" if he is 3bet/folding for ~1/4 his stack sitting on 50bbs.

Anyhoo, I would have limped in but that's me.

And I would have folded to the 3bet as a "decent reg" should only have monsters 3betting an EP opener at this stack size. Now knowing that this guy is obviously nowhere near remotely decent and somehow lol 3betting light at this stack size, I won't hate on the 3bet as much, especially with the dead fish money.

Preflop sizing is a little difficult because we want to make it big enough to have some FE preflop in order to isolate, but then if the guy does call us we'll likely not have enough left to have too much FE postflop. I'd probably just go the $150 stack, although admittedly that would have still resulted in a $340 pot with $250 behind (which is slightly more hefty than what we've left ourselves with, but not by much).

As played, I just shove the flop. On K high flops where we could easily have AK we'll get some folds by underpairs some of the time. And if he calls, whatever, hit our 2 overs (for which we'll already be giving ourselves the correct price to hit except for the rare times he has better than an underpair).

GcluelessNLnoobG

Shoving versus 55 is in no way lighting money on fire as we're only just shy of the direct odds we need to hit our ~3:1 by the river.

Factor in the times he does manage to fold a pair, as well as the times we're actually ahead and simply protecting our equity, as well as the times he gets us off the best hand / makes us fail to realize our equity when we check, etc., I think a shove is pretty standard here.

GimoG

This is an easy shove.

Why are you trying to isolate someone who just 3bet with a third of his stack? What do you think his range is then, does he 3bet bluff like that?

I would just fold pre once he raised us, especially with the cold caller.

As played it's only a hp jam but we should have plenty of FE vs described V.

V1 only has 50bb, and V2 has now put 13bb of dead money in there to help cover any EV we lose against V1s current range. I’m very sure 4 betting here is fine considering we will be flipping a lot, as well as the fact we already have money invested. This 4bet is made purely because of the dead money and how capped v2s range is

Very different story if it’s v1 opening, V2 3betting and then my decision

I believe the 4bet is bad also vs V1's read & stack size. I agree with GG that V1's action is inconsistent with our read, though I welcome the incorrect read and his fold.
It also sounds strange to be isolating V1 in this situation hoping for a flip with a little dead money in the pot. V2 is whom we should be trying to get in hands with.
As played, shove flop. However we got here, I gave up the option of folding all but the worst flops when we put 45% of my stack in preflop.

Yup, this is my take too. Really, a decent reg at 50bbs facing a UTG open should have a range not too far off TT+/AQ+, imo, and we're a sizeable 2:1 dog against that range (i.e. the dead money ain't making up for it).

I mean, turns out this guy is putting in ~1/3rd his stack to fold (with huge dead money relative to his stack to boot), so obviously he's horrible and our read is wack.

GcluelessdecentregnoobG

Yeah I understand what you’re saying, but my thinking is also I block a few combos of the hands that crush me and am flipping against a few that I unblock. As well as the fact that he will have some worse hands that 3b such as KQs and AJs as well. The dead money in there was at the time a huge factor for my decision

Appreciate the feedback too btw

I don't really see a guy who's down 2 buy ins, and now down to his last 50 bb's 3betting an UTG opener with KQ, AJ or AQ even if they're all suited but by the way he played the hand he's not really a decent player, just a bad phish reg.

V2 has cold called a raise then he cold called a reraise. I don't think he is a folding type. Your hand looks like an AA, KK, AK so I would shove. You will most likey get called by V2 becuase he won't be able to lay down his hand.

Easy jam, WP

V2 is the kind of guy who will call off your all-in with TT here. Lol

Shitty spot, but you know he's not folding. Gg