It's 4 handed middle of the night. UTG is a reg and pretty decent but he's a showdown monkey. BTN is an unknown who hasn't played many hands since he sat down an hour ago. BB is a 5/10 pro and friend who sat down after his table broke. I used to play 100nl with online with him (that's actually how we became friends) and know him as a 16tabler who used HUDs religiously, table selected, and was highly respected and did most of his poker under backing. Knows the math inside out. The kind of guy who will instantly know the equity without pokerstove and is a classic TAG. IIRC he was something like 15/12 at 6max online.

two limps, I complete with AT

BB raises to $25 (this is his standard open t 1/3 because he plays 5/10)

Call, Call,

4handed, with a pretty decent reg, a pro, an unknown Button who is tight.

Awesome table selection.

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How deep? Fine to call but you are only looking for perfect Flops here before you get out quick!! SB is a good spot to c/r these 'right' Flops and lead out on Turns .. but it has to be perfect.

Raising is death here IMO. You could be facing AA/KK from BB or TT-QQ/AK/AQ from either of the other 2 spots.

$22 to see a $100 Flop is ok, but it has to be perfect!! GL

Very +1 to this.

Why do we even want this table?

As played, I'm pretty sure this should be a call.
IF this is his normal open. If it's not, then who knows.

Side question, given that we are 4 handed, can we ever 3bet here profitably?
(Although, as I say this I don't see stack sizes. They might be useful here before we can really advise at all.)

There is no way to determine anything without stack sizes...

My thoughts (assuming were about 100bb eff all around) ... Fold.
Can't imagine this being profitable to play in such an inflated pot in the worst position vs what we have classified as competent opponets and the agressor being a better player than us and in position. I think I would prefer squeezing to calling.

If we are like $450+ effective, I guess calling can't be too bad.

FWIW 4 handed I am raising ATs here for value to iso either the Reg who is getting to sd too much or the random.

Heh. I totally expected this question and it is a good one. I was actually still playing because I like to pick my friend's brain. The advice he's offered me in the past has been invaluable. I paid him to go over HH's with me and it was an eye-opening lesson, and anytime he wants to talk poker with me (not often) is worth whatever I might lose to him.

I didn't know this at the time but the "unknown" player is the reason why the BB is still sitting here. He had stacked off 3-4 BI's at the 5/10 table and had to wait til midnight to get more money from the ATM. Apparently he was loose donating at that table. He obv tightened up since then but my friend didn't know that.

max BI is $500 and everyone has at least that much

Pot odds make this a call with fairly deep stacks, but your going to need an awesome flop to continue. Shorter I just give that up, ATs isn't going to flop well enough very often to play this out of the SB.

Also, 4 handed I would rather fold or raise the first time around. Which way depends on the limpers ranges here, if they limp strong hands a lot then I'm just folding. Playing ATs OOP against a villain who will check/call with AQ/AJ is too risky. If you can pin their ranges as being weaker, then raising is better.

I still think I am on the fence between calling, and playing very fit or fold post vs. Just folding (as played)... I mean the way you describe it, it does not really sound like the solid pro is doing this light. If we flat pot is $100 and we are first to act. It is nitty, but I think I am just folding here.

My first instinct was duh dead money lolraise, but that's a horrible play because I completed. I was one of the more aggressive regs online (21/16 @ 6max), so BB knows I'm always raising a big hand. Once I limp in, my range will be completely face up to the BB. I will be on exactly the type of hand he expects me to have if I play and he said he would have jammed if I'd try to steal. My best play, according to my friend, is fold, just because I have the best player to my direct left who can pinpoint my range and has pos.

So of course I never met a 4-way flop I didn't like, and call.

Flop 8J3r I check, BB bets, UTG calls, fold, fold

Turn Q BB bets, UTG folds

Told me he had 99. Baller!

That's a big raise and BB will know our range is capped. Fold