Straddler ($200): weak-tight.

UTG+1 ($650): Played with him about four times. He always has a beer in front of him and acts drunk, but it is an act. He is fairly competent. Often takes a long time to act. I do believe he is adding up odds quite often and contemplating stack sizes. Thing is he is the slowest I have ever played against at 1/3 and 2/5. The dealers cope because he tips well.

He is into squeeze plays. Has bombed it from the blinds twice this session and has not been called. I am talking weakish player raises to $12, two loose callers and he makes it $85 type stuff.

Button ($450): Well known player. Loose pre, loves to get chips in the middle, tough for him to fold once the pot gets big(he brings multiple buy ins). We have history and he knows me as a tight player who in the right spots can make plays. He will see a raise here from the SB as super strong.

BB ($600): Very loose caller preflop. Loves playing suited connectors for raises and gets very aggro when he flops draws. When I came to the game he slid over a seat to have me on his right fwiw. He is great for the game but on my left causes me to be careful pre - cause he calls a lot.

Hero in SB ($850): Got stacked for $300 with a big draw my second hand, then raised four times in a row in my second orbit several hours ago. Was likely seen as ready to go - but I had premium hands 3 out of 4.

Preflop (9 handed): UTG straddles, UTG+1 raises to $25, folds around...button raises to $50, hero with AKo?

What to do?

Either fold or 4b to $160 and call a shove

4b to 160. Call shove from button, but it's up to you if you want to call shove from utg+1. I probably would, and hoping that button comes along also given the chance that he doesn't have broadway cards that block outs.

If one called, probably b/f from here on out, unless board runs out 5-9 with some connectors or 1-gappers and button was the one who came along, then it would be pot odds dependent to draw for A/K.

nah ur too deep to 4bet. Calling is meh cuz your in SB. One of these times I could see you just fold the AK.

Calling isn't awful but i'm not loving it. I don't like to 4bet cuz we are too deep to get it in with AK.


edit - oh it's a straddled pot - didn't see that - I still think it's a lot to risk to 4bet shove with stacks the way they are.

you could end the hand with a 4bet but if they play back at you - you are in bad shape. I just think in a game like this there are way better spots.


if you do 4bet i'd fold to anyones shove except button.

Was thinking this also, but I went with the other option. I just think 4b is the way to go with the fe putting hero in +ev.

Now that Breaking Bad is over...

I called, BB called, UTG folded, UTG+1 called.

Flop?

Slightly disappointed in Breaking Bad's ending, but overall satisfied.

Yeah, 4b here, and hoping button comes along also.

I think i am just calling pre. And then play fit or fold on flop here.

In game I was hoping BB would fold and I get to see flop three ways.
I chickened out in other words and figured 4! is the preferred play.

Flop($199): AK8r.
I go for check-raise. It checks through. Lol.
I did win the pot without showdown.

Breaking Bad somewhat predictable but solid enough yes.

wow can these guys not betsize for ****. When I read title I forgot to consider that there would be awful 3b sizing. I like the 4ball to 150ish (fold to any 5bet here). If the villains were described as super-passive than I don't mind a fold.

However, for the love of poker, BET THE FLOP. Giving free cards in rio spots seems bad (likely range for villains in LLSNL, given that you have AK, on AK8 include alot of pocket pairs that hate the flop)

The hell do you do if the turn comes 9-Q, and when you bet you get raised?

I think jamming pre is an option here with this image and with a range of hands. It plays better than 4betting by a decent margin, but I wouldn't say 4b is bad exactly, just jamming is better. Calling is a waste of the hand imo.

Best flop ever, never ever c/ring. c/c all day every day.

Check raising here is really bad imo.

Thanks for replies...

I like the all-in preflop. These hands kind of sneak up on me sometimes. It is one of those situations where I know I have an edge on these players and my prevailing thought was I don't want to flip a coin with the button for $$$. Perhaps that should not be given weight in my decision making.

I agree on small 3-bet sizing from button so perhaps he would fold to 4 bet.

What about Check-min-raising if other two V's are not thinking players?

I feel the same way, but have always 4b shove my AK with 150bbs (even though we are super deep) or less and use fe/dead money(if there is any) as +ev. Given, usually my image is a winning player, so that helps.

But yeah, 4b/folding to 160.

I fold.

UTG+1, drunk act and all, is still supposedly competent and raised a straddle at a loose table from first position. This shouldn't be a weak hand.

Button then minraises. He's expecting UTG+1 to call, at the very least, and he's obviously begging for action. Are there a lot of 3bets preflop at your table? They are fairly rare at my table, and they usually indicate a big hand unless it's a shorty getting in his stack light; that should not be the case with these stack sizes. This should be read as fairly strong, imo.

We've got nothing invested and are possibly up against two very strong hands, with a so-so chance at being up against one of the hands we fear the most. With the straddle in play, we're not deep (only ~100bbs). If we just flat and hit an A/K, we're unlikely to win much postflop against underpairs on A/K high flops.

Sounds like there will be much better spots than this one at this table.

GcluelessNLnoobG

I mean check/minraise might be okay if you're trying to instalment plan it and you have specific reasons for it, but I think it's kind of bad to c/r as a standard.