V1 : Competent mid 40's woman, no reads just got to table about 10 hands ago.

Effective Stacks (300)

Preflop : 1/3 NLHE - folds to V1 who opens mid position to 15, hero calls in CO with AK, folds around to V1 we are HU.

Flop : 667 V1 bets 15, hero calls.

Turn : 4 V1 bets 35, Hero?? ..... (hero calls)

River : Q V1 bets 75......Hero?? (hero folds)

**This board is extremely dry especially for the pre-flop raiser, people raise SC's and PP's extremely rarely in this game. Is there value in floating the flop? The turn?? River seems like a fairly easy fold if you make it that far, honestly did not expect 3 barrels but river hit almost any hands i could beat ie KQ/AQ/QJs**

**Also obviously re-raise pre is in consideration, more interested in the logic of floating or not floating**

No way I dont 3! this pre to something like $55. That allows you to fire on this flop and rep an overpair.

AP, I would float flop (or raise), likely raise turn and also likely shove river as V's range is capped to one pair on that board (except maybe QQ) so it would be very difficult to call. But I wouldn't be in the spot because I would have 3! pre.

How often do you see players double barrel in your game with weak range? What about triple barrel?

It's a pretty crappy flop to float, because you are literally representing small/medium pair at best.

Turn is even harder to rep anything besides bluff catcher/trips+.

River and she's telling you that she doesn't think you have trips+, leaving you with only bluff catcher.

Without better read, I highly doubt she's capable of bluffing with a wide range on river and it might even be probable that she's merging with a value hand as bluff. I don't think floating this particular turn card in LLSNL is a good idea.

dont float in LLSNL. just dont do it. your calling this flop isn't a "float" you are calling because you think you have the best hand here. dont get in this spot again. 3bet pre mandatory.

3 bet preflop isnt in consideration, its mandatory. its not a consideration. do it.

3! is mandatory but you cant float IP too in the right circumstances provided you follow up with a raise somewhere (which you didn't). You basically played the hand hoping either (1) AKo was good or (2) you would hit an Ace or King and win. No bueno.

If you float, it has to be with a purpose to steal the pot later or fold to significant pressure (or a really bad runout).

floating is when you are playing against a loose weak opponent who frequently bets on earlier streets and gives up on later streets. it also works best if you have a tight image. and yes you have to have the bottom of your range and try to take the pot away from your opponent at some point for it to be a float.

competent mid 40s woman with no reads is not a player you want to float.

Yeah 3! pre. Would you have 3! TT+? Because if so and if V thinks so then now what are you repping with your flat flat flat line. If you really had trips or something you be raising flop or turn but you didn't.

As played flop float is fine vs smallish bet and in position but folding turn unimproved and I guess fire on turn if she checks. I don't like the idea of raising turn and jamming river when we don't have any reads on V and don't know what our own image is.

Not sure I agree if you do it correctly. Pretty sure most players, competent or not would fold 1 pair OTR if we float/raise turn/shove here. Not saying it is the most optimal line because 3! pre was way better, but now that we are here we need a different plan other than call. It is either fold turn or use the range advantage we have to put her to the test. Not saying I do it every time, but this is a really good board to give it a go. Would be nicer if we were 200 deep too but can't have everything.

the play you are describing is called a "punt" not a float.

villain just shrug calls it off with 88+.

Lol seriously? A 40-yo woman will shrug call off 100 blinds with 88+ range? Not in my game. QQ+ maybe, but why not test her? Also, the float part is only the flop so it is still a float (a call with a weak hand with the intention of taking the pot away on a later street).

ok, punt away then big fella.

Will do kid.

and thats why you are still playing LLS junior lol.

Really REALLY need to 3b! this pre.

AP, if you are calling the flop then you absolutely have to raise on the turn. Flatting on the turn is a total punt.

Not a lot of mid 40s women open pre and bet all three streets with garbage. Fold turn.