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12-12-2019 , 05:33 AM
Hi all,

1/3 effective stacks are around 285 I cover V.

V: seems tighter than average. When he calls me preflop open I don’t feel great about it... his VPIP is very low so far but possibly just card dead.

H: fairly active. Haven’t had to show anything down. Getting a lot of premiums.

OTTH: I raise AcQh UTG+1 to 13 and V calls in cutoff others fold

flop (30): AsQd3s

I bet 12 he raises to 25

I flat I thought about min 3! Him and I probably should have 3! Flop OOP with a flush draw here

Turn 6d I check he bets 60 we call.. I should probably just jam

River 9d I check he jams we snap... thoughts? Are we good?

Last edited by XXX555666; 12-12-2019 at 05:34 AM. Reason: Suit
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12-12-2019 , 06:53 AM
You’re hoping he has some sort of combo draw like KQs or QJs. He could also have A3s. I’d probably be happier getting this in on the flop or turn than after he PSB shoves the river. As played I’m probably calling just hoping I’m good the requisite 1/3 of the time, but he’s probably going to show you a set (33).

Last edited by Brocktoon; 12-12-2019 at 06:59 AM.
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12-12-2019 , 06:57 AM
Flop: You should typically downbet Axx flops as the IR, but on this board vs this player profile i think we can go bigger to 20-25. A downbet is designed to get calls from 44-99 or bare gutshots, but most TAG's will fold these hands on this board anyway. So get some more value vs hands that wont fold for big sizing.

AP, standard bet/call. These min-raises are often flushdraws trying to get a cheap checkback on the turn, weak TP trying to find out where it's at, or random spew attacking your downbet. Occasionally it's a monster thats trying to lure you in, but other than 33 you block all of those.
3betting here will fold out a lot of worse hands and see our equity vs his range plummet imo.

Turn: Assuming the flop raise is for the reasons outlined above, you should consider leading turn for 60-80% pot (and fold to a jam...?). AP, prudently calling is fine. Mind you, i expected most of his weaker flop hands would check back turn, and he bets anyway. Maybe i'm just being MUBSY.

River: Yeah call, spades missed, or he can have A3s or also AQ. You'll lose to 33 or Adxd often though.
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12-12-2019 , 11:55 AM
I limp but that's my style. In the end we got it HU to a reasonably manageable SPR of 9 (good, but expected?), albeit OOP to a tight player.

With an SPR of 9 we can get stacks in with PSBs on early streets to leave a reasonable shove for the river. The question is whether we actually want to against this guy. If I'm cool with that, I'd probably start doing some PSBing and do that. If I'm not cool with that, I'd start betting smaller and evaluating.

It's possible our small cbet has induced a raise from worse hands to charge draws. But on the other hand, a tight guy just raised the flop. Does he really raise the flop with AK? Most people don't raise just TP on the flop nowadays. Is he raising a good draw? Some tight players just call in position and try to hit their hand given the good price. We have to start planning on whether we're cool with committing or not (especially having only gotten in 4.5% of our stack preflop offering him awesome 22:1 IO). If we feel committed, I'd probably reraise to start getting stacks in ASAP. If we don't feel committed, I'd probably just go into call down mode.

The committed question isn't an easy one here, imo. Does he call with A3s preflop? Most tight guys don't as first caller. Can he have QQ facing an EP raise? A lotta people can. Does he play AK like this? Can he be aggro with draws? We're beat by very few hands (mostly just QQ/33), and yet that's what we run into *a lot* when a tight guy raises the flop.

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12-12-2019 , 12:02 PM
I'm just putting another raise on the flop. Definitely would raise the turn.
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12-12-2019 , 07:06 PM
Raise flop. AP raise turn.

Against this player, given this action, I just fold River AP. His most likely hand is 33, and other than AQ, his next most likely hand is actually QQ imo. Based on your description he rarely has a draw here and may even check back A3.

I can’t see this player type overbet jam river with a missed draw. Seems extremely optimistic, especially considering this flop smashes your range- not his.

Last edited by RoadtoPro; 12-12-2019 at 07:12 PM.
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12-15-2019 , 01:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard32
Hi all,

1/3 effective stacks are around 285 I cover V.

V: seems tighter than average. When he calls me preflop open I don’t feel great about it... his VPIP is very low so far but possibly just card dead.

H: fairly active. Haven’t had to show anything down. Getting a lot of premiums.

OTTH: I raise AcQh UTG+1 to 13 and V calls in cutoff others fold

flop (30): AsQd3s

I bet 12 he raises to 25

I flat I thought about min 3! Him and I probably should have 3! Flop OOP with a flush draw here

Turn 6d I check he bets 60 we call.. I should probably just jam

River 9d I check he jams we snap... thoughts? Are we good?
What did villain have?
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12-15-2019 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Gallo
What did villain have?
AKdd

Rivered nuts
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