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11-22-2023 , 08:06 PM
Hero is early 30s playing 1/3. Squeezed once in the past but no crazy image. 9 handed game.

Hero has 9h9d in BB with $350. Straddle to 6 is on. 4 limpers and hero?

In game raised to $55. I contemplated going all in for a bit to try and get 8s and lower to call off if they had it but decided against.

V1 Straddle cold calls $55. He’s a fishy 40 year old guy with a 1k stack. Likes to gamble but passive. V2 in HJ is unknown but just got called for 2/5 and seems to be a competent player. 1k stack as well, calls. Everyone else folds.

~$175 in the pot
Flop comes 10d, 6d, 4d. Hero is first to act with $300 behind and?
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11-22-2023 , 08:24 PM
V2 is going to be very PP heavy like 77 and below and some lower suited Ax. Maybe he has some SCs in there as well.
He doesn't seem that competent when he's overlimping and then calling a large raise.
But our definitions of competence probably differ.

V1 going to be something like all PP and tons of suited cards maybe some stuff like AJo/AQo/KQo depending on how bad he is.

I think you can lead small or check here with the 9d and given both of their ranges.

If I bet I'd probably go 35-40 and be wary of any aggressive action from V1 and V2 continuing in the hand is goind to narrow his range considerably.
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11-23-2023 , 11:11 AM
I c/f btjm. This is bc I don't expect them both to fold, and my hand will hardly improve. Even if a diamond comes out ott I'm still not feeling good about the hand anyway.
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11-23-2023 , 11:33 AM
I would bet small to deny equity to overcards. Obviously multiway OOP with an underpair isn't the definition of a comfortable spot but it's not a disaster. Yes they may have a Ten or better but the chances are they both have overcards or a smaller pair. Don't necessarily take this hand all the way, but start with a small bet.

Edit: only just spotted the suits. OK, so multiway OOP on a monotone board with an underpair definitely isn't comfortable! That said the opponents are probably feeling the same way. I would still probably bet, but make it really small, 40 or so. Given all the dangers checking would also be OK.
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11-23-2023 , 12:23 PM
I probably just take the extremely low variance route and see a flop preflop. If we flop a set, do our best to build a pot postflop. Trivial check/fold with an overs and a bet or call or two. Flopping an overpair maybe just take a cautious line and attempt to feel things out and meanwhile leaning to nitty overfolding so multiway. Easy peasy and almost impossible to **** up. But probably borderline. I typically draw my line in the sand with TT (since it can make the nut straight while 99 can't) but whatever. Lol @ the thought of going all-in, I'm sure all the potential limp/reraisers in this hand will love that strat.

Honestly I'm not even sure what to do on this flop. SPR is lol small, our pair could be good, our diamond draw might be good, and if we're ahead we would like to protect our equity. But we could also just be punting the rest of our stack drawing ~dead too with any bets, all OOP to boot (which makes things more difficult).

Overall, and admittedly perhaps because I feel a little lost at this point, I see no reason to get ourselves (or, at least, me) into these spots at LLSNL.

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11-23-2023 , 12:53 PM
You're playing the the crazy image then go with it. Jam. Maybe you're beat, maybe you're not. It'll make you money on later streets if you're playing like crazy.
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11-23-2023 , 07:48 PM
With ~33 in the pot, and no raise when it gets to you I don't think you should shove 350 or make it 55.

Low variance can just limp too (for 3), esp. if straddle will raise wide (then you mostly have to 3bet) ... and if you see a flop 6 ways with an okayish multiway hand it's not the end of the world.

If you want to raise you need to go bigger, 2x pot is 66; 3x is 99 ... 80 in round and in the middle.


3 ways on a monotone flop with pair+mid flush draw at 2 SPR ... all options kind of suck.
In general on multiway monotone flops OOP I check a lot mostly betting flushes and some NFD hands, but betting small here might be slightly better in a vacuum.
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11-23-2023 , 07:53 PM
Very interesting thought processes… thanks for sharing.

Upon reflection i think I’d like a raise to like 80 preflop. It doesn’t quite commit my stack if EP limpers limp-jam but it also disincentives callers with small PPs…. I realize how that sounds as I type it…. I’m leaving it.

Hero bets $45 on flop. One fold and HJ player calls.

Turn 3h. Approx $265 in the pot and hero has $255 behind. Hero?

Last edited by DonkFishy; 11-23-2023 at 07:56 PM. Reason: Grammar
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11-23-2023 , 08:29 PM
I would start checking.
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11-26-2023 , 09:46 PM
I check and he thinks for a bit and shoves…. Hero?
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11-26-2023 , 10:03 PM
Raise pre size was fine but I’d have gone $50 personally.

I would have bet $110 on flop being prepared to call a jam. Sometimes they’ll have Tx but they’ll also have 88/77/55 thinking you have AK.

You’ve also got a (weak) flush draw and a BDSD so given an SPR of 1.7x this is a pretty good flop for 99.

As played I just stuff it in there OTT.
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