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07-21-2014 , 01:06 AM

Nestoeggs

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1

V- is a huge fish and plays every hand. Will bluff in any spot and lost 3 buy ins when i played with him last week in under an hour. He has about 400 and hero has 350.
Folds to V on button and makes it 15, hero calls with 77 in the sb and it's heads up.
(30) Flop 2-d 3-s 4-c hero checks, V bets 20 hero calls.
(70) Turn J-s it goes check check.
(70) River 8-h hero checks V bets 110. Hero?

Last edited by Nestoeggs; 07-21-2014 at 01:35 AM.

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07-21-2014 , 01:15 AM

Richard Parker

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

Don't post result.

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07-21-2014 , 01:53 AM

Ahutz

grinder

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 619

It feels like you need to be good something near 40% of the time to make calling correct on the river. Based on your read and if it's accurate, your opponent likely bluffs frequently enough to make calling this river bet OK.

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07-21-2014 , 10:21 AM

JPeezy55

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 445

You probably need to be a little more specific on "will bluff in any spot" and what that means. Specifically, what does an overbet on the river mean?

If you've seen him do this with air / missed draws before, then by all means you should go check-call on the river.

If you haven't, I think it's a check-fold or maybe a blocking-bet (~$25-$30 river bet)/fold on the river.

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07-21-2014 , 01:38 PM

gobbledygeek

Poet Laureate of LLSNL

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 36,206

I probably play the hand the same way to the river. Against a guy who is big into bluffing, who checked the turn on a drawy board, and then bet big on the river when no draws completed (does he want us to call or fold?), I would probably call.

GcallingstationG

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07-21-2014 , 02:10 PM

iraisetoomuch

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 37,552

I mean, what's he repping?
88? J8?

Flopped nuts that slow played the turn?

I'd call.

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07-21-2014 , 05:51 PM

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

I'd want to know how often he overbet a but he's not really reping much. Kinda want to call his ass. Gotta know what his bet sizing is like though.

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07-21-2014 , 05:58 PM

LoLuMaD

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 381

88 makes sense

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07-22-2014 , 05:45 AM

ozmosis313

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,010

Is this wild player polarized or has he/is he capable of making/spewy enough that he bets like this with less than stellar hands, but hands that still beat you such as garbage jacks or 8x?

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07-22-2014 , 05:49 AM

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skillz_2106

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,605

Ahhh, dirty spot. Against described villain I probably call, but not stoked about it

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07-22-2014 , 09:39 AM

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Johnni2toes

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 265

The only hand he's repping is 88. Some fish will overbet when they hit their good card, but a lot of them will go for smaller value. Your history and observing of this villain counts a lot in this hand. Have you seen him overbet bluff the river? This is also a not so frequent spot where live tells come in very handy.

Who am I fooling? Against a spewy fish I just sigh and call.

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07-22-2014 , 11:46 AM

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OSUTexan

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,210

I'll keep it simple:

If you have seen an overbet bluff from him on the river before...then call.

If NOT, he has 88 and you should fold....

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