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03-28-2015 , 03:58 PM
At Bellagio, just sat down. Hero is mid 20s white male. $300 effective stacks. 3 limps to me on button, I raise to $20 with AsKc. Sb cold calls after asking how much hero was playing. Everyone else folds. Villain is 30 something white male, sounds british, not a reg at Bellagio. T shirt and jeans etc.

Pot $48 after rake

Flop Ks Qs 7h

Villain x, hero bets $40, villain calls. Again, we hold the As.

Turn Ad

Villain leads $55, hero?

Last edited by DropTheJoysticks; 03-28-2015 at 04:04 PM.
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03-28-2015 , 04:21 PM
Call and think about calling or raising river
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03-28-2015 , 05:11 PM
He bet 55 into 128?

Call and play a river imo. Keep his range as wide as possible.

I doubt I find a river fold, and I might even shove over a river bet for value, but I'd like to use my position to see what V does with the remaining ~7/8 PSB.
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03-28-2015 , 05:18 PM
Raise all in on turn, to many hands in his range that u have dominated. Get the money in, your good.
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03-28-2015 , 05:20 PM
I call, planning to look at his sizing on river, bet large if he checks to me, and raise if he bets small. River 10d. Villain shoves for 200ish.
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03-28-2015 , 05:21 PM
Call and call most rivers. Raised if you get the read that you should.
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03-28-2015 , 05:22 PM
Thinking more, probably just calling a river bet.

JT is 16 combos, AQ and KQ are just 12 total. If he has AJ and AT (flopped gutter turned top pair), I'm not sure he's taking this line or stacking off; a weird AA, KK, QQ also aren't impossible. We have a strong hand but there isn't a ton that gives us value.

That's why I like calling turn and keeping his range wide.
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03-28-2015 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Willyoman
Thinking more, probably just calling a river bet.

JT is 16 combos, AQ and KQ are just 12 total. If he has AJ and AT (flopped gutter turned top pair), I'm not sure he's taking this line or stacking off; a weird AA, KK, QQ also aren't impossible. We have a strong hand but there isn't a ton that gives us value.

That's why I like calling turn and keeping his range wide.
This was my line of thinking as well. I posted the river above
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03-28-2015 , 05:44 PM
Fold, unfortunately.
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03-28-2015 , 06:03 PM
Fold.

That's either a very lucky river card for you (he already has JT) or unlucky (he has AJ), but it's a fold. AT two-pair isn't impossible, but that's only 6 combos to the 20 JT,AJ that beat you, and it's also less likely given the line. Other straights like KJ and QJ aren't likely but aren't impossible. You need around 2:1 to call and I'll guess you're a 3.5:1 dog. I don't think he'll show up with KQ, AQ or worse. I think the J is mostly a lucky card for you.
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03-28-2015 , 07:02 PM
I don't like calling OOT. If he has an unlikely JT, is playing it tricky (like QQ or KK), because there is no reason he would bet it due the previous action, he has just to wait for you to bet again. Best scenario for him he has Two pairs, like AQ or AJ, or a crushingly lucky 77. So, I would raise large on the turn, make him to take a decision for his chips. Most of the time you are good in this spot.
At the river, he has a bluff, AJ or 77.
So, what happened?

Edit: I hate the questioners "How much are you playing with?". Count, MFaQrs, count!
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03-28-2015 , 07:06 PM
Hero ends up folding. Mostly just wanted to get analysis of the turn play.
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03-28-2015 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DPCharly
I don't like calling OOT. If he has an unlikely JT, is playing it tricky (like QQ or KK), because there is no reason he would bet it due the previous action, he has just to wait for you to bet again. Best scenario for him he has Two pairs, like AQ or AJ, or a crushingly lucky 77. So, I would raise large on the turn, make him to take a decision for his chips. Most of the time you are good in this spot.
At the river, he has a bluff, AJ or 77.
So, what happened?

Edit: I hate the questioners "How much are you playing with?". Count, MFaQrs, count!
Yeah I'm usually polite at the table but I answered this question pretty rudely. I had 300, its really not that hard to look over and see. Guess they wanna be like the pros on tv
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03-28-2015 , 08:26 PM
If my chips are in the pot and someone asks for a count, I usually let the dealer do the work or just answer with the bet size. If my chips are not in the pot, I move my hands, point to the stack and say nothing. If they ask again, how much you playing, I reply, my chips are in plain view. I never give a count as to what I've got behind. I keep big chips in front, my stacks are mostly orderly and I feel no need to be helpful. If a dealer tried to give a number, I'd say, whoa, my chips aren't in the pot, what are you doing? I don't hide my chips but I also don't feel a responsibility to give a chip count.
Also, when someone bets by saying, all right, I put you all in, I pause and let them know that they can put them self all in but only I can put me all in. And then hopefully I go all in and double up.
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03-30-2015 , 11:37 AM
In my game after 3 limps I might attempt to go to $30 in order to setup an SPR I can stack off to postflop with TP. It's definitely on the big size, but not insanely out of line in my game. Your game might vary.

We'll probably have to make up our minds on the flop what we are doing. The SPR is ~6, which is a weird inbetween one straddling the line between commitment and pot controlling, imo. On this super drawy board, I probably lean towards the former. I might overbomb the pot to like $65 so I can setup a slight overbomb shove on the turn. The problem with smaller bets is that we're going to end up leaving so little behind eventually for the river.

As played, I probably just shove the turn. We're ahead of AQ/KQ and some wonky suited A7/K7/Q7 hands, plus ahead of semibluff draws. We could definitely be behind some hands, but have some outs in those cases too.

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