Hero in HJ with Kd 10d

V1 UTG older Asian, 40s, just got busted in a flush over flush and rebuys for $500. I’m the effective stack for $180.

V2 SB, middle aged Asian guy. Somewhat conservative player $300

V1 open raises to 10
4 callers

Flop ($55)
Jh, Kh, jc

V1 bets $35
I call
V2 in SB calls

Now alarm bells are ringing. He could have a jack or be on a heart draw or maybeeee have a king but if he does his kicker has to be better than mine right?

Turn ($160)
8c

V1 checks
I check
V2 checks

River
2s

V1 bets $65
Hero?

I’d look at V2 and check his body language. If he has chips or looks like he’s calling, I fold. If he looks checked out or is pushing his cards up, I lean towards calling. You’re getting great odds and don’t have to be good here that often for it to be +EV.

Is V1 tilting at all? That would push me closer to a call as well.

Fold flop. You didn’t play KTs to make TP on a paired board where the pair is in every V’s range.

You play KTs to make a straight or a flush or TP heads up. Once you didn’t 3b pre your line is chosen.

I think folding flop is too weak. River is tricky, it might be fine to mix call, fold and raise. Depending on your image I think a big raise can be good occasionally, unlikely V2 checks last to act on turn with a J, and you put a lot of pressure on AK/KQ. If you don't raise I think call vs fold just becomes based on your read of V1, probably doesn't matter much from an EV perspective.

And we’re not folding preflop because why?

I would be shocked if he was bluffing into two people with this line. Most likely it's a better king that pot controlled the turn after getting two calls. I also wouldn't be calling KTs pre-flop without a full stack at least.

Ah interesting, so at my stack depth we would play k10s as a preflop fold or 3bet?

Because the hand looked pretty and I was tempted after being card dead haha. No but actually you think I should 3bet or fold here pre?

At 60BB you really should not be calling a raised pot with speculative hands. With large low stakes opens you just can't get paid enough, only set mining could pay off well enough.

This hand is particularly bad because the open was UTG. What sort of flop do you want? Catching either a K or a T could easily leave you with the second best hand if villain opened with a reasonable UTG range. With callers in between I might call this with $300+, and I'm a very call happy player compared to most posters here.

Yeah, and I’d be folding almost always. The raise is from UTG and there is no reason to think that you’re in good shape here.

You should be folding at every opportunity in this hand.

Should be more descriptive with your preflop action. Were we the first caller? The last? Etc. Anyhoo, the preflop sizing is very small, so I can understand why we want to get in there and mix it up. But at this stack size and from this position (there are still 4 players that can squeeze against all the dead money), it's kinda meh.

I'm folding the flop. Dude is continuing into the world, there really isn't all that much he should be doing that with that we're ahead of. Plus we still have some (all?) of the world to react behind us. Our plan shouldn't have been calling preflop to hit TPWKnodraw (which makes preflop an easier fold if it was).

Turn and river action is a bit wonky relative to where SB is acting. But I think I would also check the turn back. And I think I fold the river.

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We're not making TP heads-up though. Even if we're the first caller pre (which we don't know) the odds of everybody behind us folding are pretty slim. If we call $10 here pre, the hand is going to the flop mulitway the vast majority of the time. Pretty sure seeing a 3bet behind us is actually more likely than everybody folding.

That means we're playing the hand to make a flush or straight. With a 60BB stack. Doesn't sound like a profitable play to me. If that's the case we should fold pre.

Yup

Fold flop. Monkey in middle