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1/3/10 combatting BTN straddle. 1/3/10 combatting BTN straddle.

03-31-2015 , 12:57 AM
Hero just lost a hand within this orbit, will be adding on when BTN comes around.
BLinds 1/3 with half of the table straddling for $10.
7-handed

Preflop:

BTN: A TAG Regular, Straddles for $10.
SB, HERO; A3 $110 stack, everyone covers.
Raise to $30.

MP: LAG, calls $30.

BTN: 3! to $150
Hero: Calls $110 total
MP: Folds

$246 in Pot

Questions:
What are Hero's options from SB?
Can we Raise/fold? With what hands?
Can we limp/raise? With what hands?
Can we shove? With what hands?

What thoughts can we have about a range in this spot?

How likely is it someone has a better hand than A3ss behind us at a 7-handed table? (Where can I find this information?)

Thanks for your help!?

Last edited by Mr. Fug; 03-31-2015 at 01:03 AM. Reason: changed 3! to Raise to..... and changed "Raise to" to 3!
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03-31-2015 , 01:01 AM
With a button straddle, as the SB, not only do you have the normal position problem after the flop you now have it pf as well. I'm probably playing my A3s (unless the table has been overly aggressive), but I'm not raising with it and I'm certainly not calling a massive 3b with it.
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03-31-2015 , 01:08 AM
Just fold pre with 11bb effectively from the worst position.
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03-31-2015 , 01:35 AM
Umm...fold pre.
By doing so, u have some time to get some chips to buy in full, and decide whether to straddle your button the next hand.
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03-31-2015 , 01:56 AM
You combat the button straddle by not playing speculative hands from double-plus-bad position. Just fold pre the first time unless you are much deeper and game is very very limpy. Put it this way, in a non-straddle game, would you limp or raise this hand UTG with $33 behind?

At your stack size in this position, I would raise to $40 with TT+, AQ+ with a plan to shove most flops and fold everything else. If straddler has a history of raising his straddle some decent amount of the time, I would limp-shove KK+.
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03-31-2015 , 11:18 AM
I top up before every hand.

I would fold preflop. Far too many people left to react behind us that can wake up with a better hand, imo. And our stack is far too small to possibly consider limping in at a passive table and hoping for a multiway pot.

As played, I'm guessing we shouldn't ever be putting in 30% of our stack to fold, especially with other dead money in the pot, so I would also call it off at this point. We're most likely in pretty bad shape, which is why we have to commit with a better hand, imo.

FWIW: Our small stack actually does negate the power of position postflop (where if we did happen to get this HU with a raise we'd simply shove any flop most times anyways), so that's not really a concern here. But lack of position preflop (where we have no clue who / how many are interested in their hands) is certainly a problem.

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03-31-2015 , 11:55 AM
PF: Well, I like the raise over just calling, but I would just fold here. We are playing As3s to stack someone with a smaller flush; not for TP. We only have $110; we really need a full stack here to make a play.

Can we Raise/fold? With what hands? Can't raise/fold with only 36bb. The hands don't matter, stack size is more important
Can we limp/raise? With what hands? Not a fan of the limp/raise, although here we could limp with AK if we are certain someone will raise this straddle and then we can shove.
Can we shove? With what hands? Open shoving 36bb would be stupid.
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03-31-2015 , 12:25 PM
fold pre, reload. play poker.
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03-31-2015 , 09:00 PM
Fold not even close. Suited Ace rag has very little value in cash games OOP with 11 BB effective.

Game sounds horrible. You need to play super tight pre. Being game is being played 30bb effective
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