Hero ($300) on button: Mid-20's TAG-ish game, a little LAGgier at this table due to presence of a couple players that will call PF almost 100% of hands. Currently stuck $400 after someone flopped a set against my overpair and I double-bricked two monster draws against a drunk maniac.

V1 ($300) in SB: Woman in her 40's, moved to this table because one of the dealers told her it was the action table. Her PF raises have been $17-20, seems to think she knows what everyone has on every hand and has been calling it out after hands (ex: she bets $10 on a KxxQQ board in a $10 pot, gets raised to $30 on river, says "I know you have KQ, nice hand" and folds). Seems pretty bitchy.

V2 ($200) in CO: Older guy probably in his 70's, plays pretty tight overall, very tight raising range, but not a total nit. Have played with him a bunch of times, he sees me as an action player with wide raising range.

Hero dealt 89

Someone limps in MP, CO limps, I raise to $10, SB calls, BB folds, both limpers call.

Flop ($42): JT3

Limper checks, V2 bets $15, hero calls, V1 raises to $35 (lol), limper folds, V2 folds, hero calls.

I think her range here is JT and 33 only, don't think she would c/r AJ/KJ from the SB.

Turn ($127): 7

V1 leads for $55 and has about $215 more behind. Hero?

make it like 125-135 or shove. i dont like trying to slow play another street because the next card could be an action killer... or. fill her up.

This. I'd raise to 130-140 but if ur pretty sure hell call a shove then just shove

I don't understand your preflop thinking. You raise a crap hand after two limpers, one of whom you don't know enough about to even comment and the other is a player who knows you as someone who has a wide raising range. And of top of it, you decide to raise only 5x the bb, virtually guaranteeing a number of callers.

Were you on tilt?

89 is the best hand in poker and I'm on the button.

Given stack sizes I just shove the turn.. like Sief said don't want an action killer on the river although not sure if we need to worry about her filling up if she does have a set regardless of whether or not we ship it because I can't see her folding her set on that board

I'm also a fan of that p/f raise power to the button!

yeah.. if ur gonna play the hand, might as well play the hand.

I guess you can minraise to 110 and pot will be 343 and 160 behind which you can shove on the river

I think I just shove here. A set is probably *sigh* calling you here.

Any time I make a smaller raise or flat I seem to regret the decision, partly because I get outdrawn and partly because I miss value.

given stack sizes, standard shove?

result? did she open fold an overpair to your turn shove?

Results:

pretty whatever spot tbqh. shoving and calling to shove any river but fold to a J or T are about the same.

preflop is really the only debatable street, and probably but not definitely a leak.

Just shove, you should get one caller. Make them make the decision when they are behind.

The turn was heads up.

This. As played just ship it she's never folding.

OP you're better than asking how we get this in OTT (I know you are from ur pretty good posts). It's not like we're OOP. If you're good enough to raise this pre OTB profitably, this should be a snooze spot where you win all the monies.

Thanks. In the hand I was debating between a raise that commits her and the overbet shove. I thought if she had TJ there would be a lot of action killing river cards (any flush card, 8, 9, Q, K, or A). The stack size and her bet sizes made the turn a little awkward since it seemed like the only raise I could make that wasn't a shove would be a min raise.

Preflop raise size is terrible (and depending on table, raising preflop is bad)

also turn is standard shove. people have to be either really good, or really nitty, to fold 2 pair+ here.

I don't understand the hate preflop. 89 flops well multiway plus u have position with the button. The raise let's us take it down on the flop when everyone misses as opposed to not being able to rep anything when we limp

The raise size is going to get us called at least 3 if not 4 ways, and the flop is going to be disastrous for our hand / continuing with it, a large # of times it's just spewing money.

Raising to $14 would be better than $10.

pre is whatever.

op isn't just blindly raising for no reason and will play well enough post flop that its fine.

probably would jam turn as well, but i don't think calling or almost min raising is bad either

If I raise to $14 I have an SPR of 3-5 when 3 people call instead of an SPR of 5-8. I can continue with any hand when I'm on the button since I get to decide what money goes in and a cbet will take down a lot of flops. My button raising range depending on stack sizes is roughly any PP, any Axs, 56s+ connectors/one-gappers/two-gappers, 89o+ connectors, TJo+ broadway cards....so pretty wide I would say. The bigger the stacks, the wider the raising range.

Again. This hand flops good multiway.

Shove or raise with the intention of getting it in. After the strong turn lead by villain though, I like the shove. There are too many scare cards that can come on the river that will kill the action.