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Originally Posted by Newyorkgrinder
Villian spewed off a stack earlier getting it in with some garbage against a pretty tight and straight forward player. he plays wayyyyy too many hands preflop, usually limping, but i can't tell you much about his postflop game because i havent seen him show down many hands yet. young middle eastern kid.
I think you played the hand fine if you folded.
Sounds like villain is loose (too many hands pre-flop) and passive (usually limping). I know you don't have better reads yet... but this is a solid start. That's the perfect villain to bet bet bet for value with top pair. And generally, without a better read, the same villain that's perfect for the bet bet bet line here is also going to be an easy bet/fold in this situation.
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Originally Posted by Newyorkgrinder
I like checking back on this turn and calling any river bet on a non ace and non FD river but I figured his range was way wider than just flush draws and straight draws and AT (which is a pretty standard range, including Qx too for most players in this spot) but I figured he was calling flop super light with stuff like bottom pair and mid pair weak kicker and gut shots and maybe even just as low as ace high if he thinks i'm a chronic bluffer (who knows what goes thru these types of players heads sometimes but i have seen people call with literally air like K high just to 'snap off a bluff' vs a cbet) so i figured a turn bet was manditory for value and to charge draws and I wouldn't even mind just picking up the pot at this point since theres already over 37BB in the middle already
Slow down man. You're just totally leveling yourself here.
Yes, he probably is calling flop very light.
No, he probably doesn't think you're a chronic bluffer - he probably thinks: oh hey, I has pair.
Yes, a turn bet for value is a good idea.
No, you're not trying to charge draws, you're trying to extract the maximum from a calling station. That is the PRECISE reason you isolated pre in the first place - to get pre-flop value, to play against a loose passive in position, and, with luck, to make a decent hand that you can bet bet bet for good fat value. But you need to be bet/folding.
Pre-flop, I do think KQo is a little light given you're in EP, but I think it's probably in a realm of OK depending on other table dynamics. Iso'ing the limper is great, but there's a chance you get blown off the hand or someone calls and you're playing a dominated hand out of position for three streets. Doesn't bug me too much, doesn't excite me that much, either. Much happier with KQs.