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1/2NL flopped trips on the BB - nobody wants the pot...how to get max value? 1/2NL flopped trips on the BB - nobody wants the pot...how to get max value?

10-27-2010 , 05:22 PM
Hero is seen as a decent LAG, has about $1200 in front of him
UTG has ~$350
MP has $400


1/2NL


on the BB, Hero is dealt 52

about 6-7 limpers, Hero checks his BB

FLOP: 229

SB checks, Hero Bet $20, UTG and MP call, others fold

TURN: A
Hero?
1/2NL flopped trips on the BB - nobody wants the pot...how to get max value? Quote
10-27-2010 , 05:36 PM
Keeps betting.
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10-27-2010 , 05:52 PM
I'd just keep betting cuz no one else is (the other two will rightly be concerned that someone has a 2).

The tricky part is what to do if raised, in which case I probably just go into calldown mode.
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10-28-2010 , 09:17 AM
TURN: Hero bets $65, both players reluctantly call

RIVER: 5

Hero?
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10-28-2010 , 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnonMan2002
TURN: Hero bets $65, both players reluctantly call

RIVER: 5

Hero?
Hero bets 2/3 pot again.
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10-28-2010 , 09:32 AM
I'm thinking that a bet of something like $90 here might be the highest ev play, because we're trying to induce some strange call from *both* players. If it were heads up I'd be more likely to just jam.

Ultimately it's a question of whether the EV of 1 player calling a big vbet outweighs the probability * payoff of both players calling a smaller bet. Only you will be able to estimate those variables.
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10-28-2010 , 11:01 AM
Pot is $270. Remaining stacks of villains are $265 and $315. I find it really weird that two opponents have decided to come all the way to the river on this board, so 99 probably shows up here a decent amount of times. But obviously we're not folding cuz even a smallish $100 bet that is raised we'll have to call (we'll be getting well over 3:1 here).

Someone else has a two and is worried about their kicker, but they can't fold. All-in, imo. It's not even much of an overbet (less than pot sized vs one villain, and just a little more than pot sized for the other villain). Plus, if they're calling a 2/3 bet of $180, their chances of calling a PSB bet are only slightly worse (but obviously way more +EV for us).

GimoG
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10-28-2010 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by csk30
I'm thinking that a bet of something like $90 here might be the highest ev play, because we're trying to induce some strange call from *both* players.
I'm thinking both of these players (or at least the second caller) would have to be horrible in order for this to work; I can't remember the last time I saw two reasonable players call biggish (not necessarily in terms of size, but $$$) on the river, and with this board I think it's even less likely (on an unpaired board I could see multiple players calling with two pair, but not here).
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10-28-2010 , 11:40 AM
@GG: True. To expect 2 callers here even to a small bet does assume that villains are horrendous. There are tables/table dynamics which make it feasible, though : the table I played on last night certainly was that way.

All I'm saying is, I wouldn't rule it out as a possible line. As mentioned, jamming is also an acceptable line.
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10-28-2010 , 12:52 PM
im thinking 99 would have raised the turn.
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10-28-2010 , 02:20 PM
Hero bets $110 and gets INSTAshoved by UTG. MP reluctantly folds. Are we ever good here?


RESULTS:
Spoiler:
Hero thinks he's dead against slowplayed AA or 99, but eventually calls. Villain shows 34 for a rivered idiot-straight. ty - gg
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10-28-2010 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AnonMan2002
Hero bets $110 and gets INSTAshoved by UTG. MP reluctantly folds. Are we ever good here?
We're good here far more than 1 times in 5, so gotta call.
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10-28-2010 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
We're good here far more than 1 times in 5, so gotta call.
also of note, MP claims he folded 42 so we were good the whole way
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10-28-2010 , 04:53 PM
lol live poker.

hands like these are why $20/hr is possible at 1/2
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10-28-2010 , 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnonMan2002
also of note, MP claims he folded 42 so we were good the whole way
You mean you were chopping until you hit the 5 on the river.
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10-29-2010 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CallMeVernon
You mean you were chopping until you hit the 5 on the river.
true that...
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