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1/2NL: Flop straight, but did I own myself? 1/2NL: Flop straight, but did I own myself?

07-13-2014 , 07:53 PM
1/2 NL live. Table I'm at has some decent action on it for South Florida at 12:30am. I've played with the villain all night but he's the kind of idiot who will play 10 hands, get up for 20 minutes, come back and play 10 hands, get up again, repeat. He seems to be a solid player if not a little too tight, betting big when he has it. He has around 350 in front of him and has me covered.

I find T9o in an unraised pot and limp. Five to a flop of 678 w/ two hearts. Villain opens for 15, one caller from a short stack. I decide to slow play it for two reasons: One, the villain could bet more on the turn and two, the short stack could jam.

Turn is an 8. Villain again fires 15, short stack folds. I feel like the villain would have bet more here with a bigger hand so I figure he's way behind. I call.

River is 3h. Villain looks like he's about to bet a stack but only puts out 30. Pretty sure I can't fold here ... right? What about my play on other streets?
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07-13-2014 , 09:22 PM
How much money do you have?

It's good to know what villains has, but we also need to know what you have.

Pre flop:
I wouldn't limp this hand in general.
I just don't like limping in general, if it's not good enough to raise, I'd tend to fold it.

Flop, raise. There is a lot of bad turn cards for us, some because we may not have the best hand anymore, some because we may not get any more value from our villains because the boards get too scary, including any 6, 7, 8, 9, T, 5, 4, or heart.

That's a LOT of turn cards.

So I'd make it $55 or so. But once again, this depends on your stack size.
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07-13-2014 , 09:27 PM
I started the hand with about 325, so he barely has me covered.
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07-13-2014 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dozer
1/2 NL live. Table I'm at has some decent action on it for South Florida at 12:30am. I've played with the villain all night but he's the kind of idiot who will play 10 hands, get up for 20 minutes, come back and play 10 hands, get up again, repeat. He seems to be a solid player if not a little too tight, betting big when he has it. He has around 350 in front of him and has me covered.

I find T9o in an unraised pot and limp. Five to a flop of 678 w/ two hearts. Villain opens for 15, one caller from a short stack. I decide to slow play it for two reasons: One, the villain could bet more on the turn and two, the short stack could jam.

Turn is an 8. Villain again fires 15, short stack folds. I feel like the villain would have bet more here with a bigger hand so I figure he's way behind. I call.

River is 3h. Villain looks like he's about to bet a stack but only puts out 30. Pretty sure I can't fold here ... right? What about my play on other streets?
I'm not much of an NL player, but my $0.02

Don't limp pre. I know it's horrible in my regular game (limit), and I can't imagine it is much different here. This is an okay hand to try and take it down uncontested preflop, and play poker post if you don't.

On the flop, you have a must raise. Any heart, 4 card straight making card, or board pair is either an action killer, or even puts him in front of you. Even with the business end of a straight, you're vulnerable. Besides, if he has a hand like 77 in this spot, there's a good chance he will put his stack in the middle on the flop; obviously a huge win for you. But there's a lot of board runouts that can make him get away from that hand.

On the river, his bet sizing throughout makes him look a lot like 8x, but I can't be sure and I really don't want to raise/fold so I call.
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07-14-2014 , 12:19 AM
The thing with limping T9o pf is that you need to actually make money with it when you improbably flop your straight. If you're not raising this flop and turn, then you need to ask yourself why you played the hand in the first place.
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07-14-2014 , 01:10 AM
Raise pre (or fold)

Raise flop. Slow-playing is fps. No good reason for it as wet as the board ish
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07-14-2014 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dozer
1/2 NL live. Table I'm at has some decent action on it for South Florida at 12:30am. I've played with the villain all night but he's the kind of idiot who will play 10 hands, get up for 20 minutes, come back and play 10 hands, get up again, repeat. He seems to be a solid player if not a little too tight, betting big when he has it. He has around 350 in front of him and has me covered.

I find T9o in an unraised pot and limp. Five to a flop of 678 w/ two hearts. Villain opens for 15, one caller from a short stack. I decide to slow play it for two reasons: One, the villain could bet more on the turn and two, the short stack could jam.

Turn is an 8. Villain again fires 15, short stack folds. I feel like the villain would have bet more here with a bigger hand so I figure he's way behind. I call.

River is 3h. Villain looks like he's about to bet a stack but only puts out 30. Pretty sure I can't fold here ... right? What about my play on other streets?
Oh boy lol...

First, we need to know your stack size. T9o isn't a very good hand if you are short. I see you edited in the amount...not a bad size stack for playing the cards but what position are you? Early position would not be good.

Second, flatting a draw heavy board is a terrible idea when you have the nuts and especially with one caller in between. That caller could likely have a flush draw...you need to raise minimum to about $50, but maybe even to $55-60 to be safe.

Third, Vill's range is starting to smell like a flush draw or a HUGE hand that he is not afraid of draws getting there. He bets $15 into $55...shady.

Last, V bets $30 into $85...definitely a value bet and I would expect to see a boat, or Ax/Kx/Qx high flush very frequently.
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