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1/2NL 6 Hands, No Results, Ya or Nay on each, Simple Game Right? 1/2NL 6 Hands, No Results, Ya or Nay on each, Simple Game Right?

06-27-2012 , 05:23 AM
Hero is at common 1/2 game that is playing pretty deep on this night multiple $600+ stacks

These are 6 hands that I took notes on and wanted to see if my reading and posting in LLSNL has me on the right track, I will not neccessarily put the results as to not be results oriented, and information about the player will be discussed breifly where applicable, and the hands dont need HUGE in-depth analysis individually but I would not mind strategy talk as a whole, position, bet sizing, etc.

Note about the game, it is very LAGGY (hence multiple deep stacks due to alot of rebuying), very few rock/nit types (I am seen as a nut player mostly), but thinking LAG players exist

Hero buys in for $200

1.
Live $5 straddle UTG, Hero (SB): AA MP limp, folds to Hero, Hero makes $25

2.
Live $7 straddle on BTN, MP1 and MP2 both limp, Hero(MP3): AJ limps, HJ moves All-in for $51, folds to Hero, Hero Calls

3.

No straddle, MP1 (very deep) limps, folds to CO who limps, Hero(BTN) [$155]: 88 limps, SB (very laggy, overplays draws) completes, BB checks

Flop($10): J78

MP1 leads for $10, Hero raises to $35, SB makes it $70, MP1 folds, Hero All-in for $153 total

4.
Live $5 on BTN, SB calls, MP1 calls, Hero(HJ)[$310]: 44 calls BTN checks option

Flop($20): A46

Checks to Hero, Hero Checks (mostly to induce a BTN bet and subsquent call waterfall behind, FWIW I am about 50/50 in MOST multiway rainbow boards with A check/bet when checked to me), BTN Checks

Turn: 2

Checks to Hero, Hero bets $15

5.
No straddle, MP1 (good player, very deep) opens to $10 (Would be doing this with 56suited, all the way to KK this deep), Hero(MP3)[~$360]: AQ flats, HJ(laggy player from hand 3.) flats.

Flop($33): QJT

MP1 checks, Hero Checks (MP1 knows Lagtard may bet if checked to IP, so he would mix some AK checks in his game), HJ checks

Turn($33): 7

MP1 checks, Hero bets $25, HJ calls, MP1 folds

River($77): K

Hero bets $35

6.
Live $7 straddle UTG(laggy player from 3. and 5.) MP limps (is deep and a thiking player), folds to SB who calls, Hero(BB)[$220]: AK raises to $40 (sized to TID OOP)

Thanks again
1/2NL 6 Hands, No Results, Ya or Nay on each, Simple Game Right? Quote
06-27-2012 , 05:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell2Heaven
Hero is at common 1/2 game that is playing pretty deep on this night multiple $600+ stacks

These are 6 hands that I took notes on and wanted to see if my reading and posting in LLSNL has me on the right track, I will not neccessarily put the results as to not be results oriented, and information about the player will be discussed breifly where applicable, and the hands dont need HUGE in-depth analysis individually but I would not mind strategy talk as a whole, position, bet sizing, etc.

Note about the game, it is very LAGGY (hence multiple deep stacks due to alot of rebuying), very few rock/nit types (I am seen as a nut player mostly), but thinking LAG players exist

Hero buys in for $200

1.
Live $5 straddle UTG, Hero (SB): AA MP limp, folds to Hero, Hero makes $25

2.
Live $7 straddle on BTN, MP1 and MP2 both limp, Hero(MP3): AJ limps, HJ moves All-in for $51, folds to Hero, Hero Calls

3.

No straddle, MP1 (very deep) limps, folds to CO who limps, Hero(BTN) [$155]: 88 limps, SB (very laggy, overplays draws) completes, BB checks

Flop($10): J78

MP1 leads for $10, Hero raises to $35, SB makes it $70, MP1 folds, Hero All-in for $153 total

4.
Live $5 on BTN, SB calls, MP1 calls, Hero(HJ)[$310]: 44 calls BTN checks option

Flop($20): A46

Checks to Hero, Hero Checks (mostly to induce a BTN bet and subsquent call waterfall behind, FWIW I am about 50/50 in MOST multiway rainbow boards with A check/bet when checked to me), BTN Checks

Turn: 2

Checks to Hero, Hero bets $15

5.
No straddle, MP1 (good player, very deep) opens to $10 (Would be doing this with 56suited, all the way to KK this deep), Hero(MP3)[~$360]: AQ flats, HJ(laggy player from hand 3.) flats.

Flop($33): QJT

MP1 checks, Hero Checks (MP1 knows Lagtard may bet if checked to IP, so he would mix some AK checks in his game), HJ checks

Turn($33): 7

MP1 checks, Hero bets $25, HJ calls, MP1 folds

River($77): K

Hero bets $35

6.
Live $7 straddle UTG(laggy player from 3. and 5.) MP limps (is deep and a thiking player), folds to SB who calls, Hero(BB)[$220]: AK raises to $40 (sized to TID OOP)

Thanks again
1. Is Straddler a raiser? If he is, limp/reraise. If he isn't, it's fine.

2. Meh. Fine.

3. All in (you only have $155, right?). Probably would have raised it on the button, though.

4. Lesson No. 1 of live NL poker: Bet your own hand. Don't expect others to do it for you. You have a set, you want to build this pot as quickly as possible.

5. Fine. Could 3-bet if his range is as wide as you describe.

6. Probably a little big because at $1/$2, people think in dollar values, not big blinds, or in this case in relation to the $7 straddle. You've basically gone 6x, which is like $12 if the game was playing $1/$2. I think you are taking this down preflop a lot of the time, though.
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06-27-2012 , 05:36 AM
wtf is a straddle. Why do you have to ask about raising with AA for hand 1.

Same with hand 2, why did you limp AJo instead of raising.

wtf is a straddle.
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06-27-2012 , 08:56 AM
1 - With only one limper behind, this is a good situation to limp and reraise straddler. If straddler isn't the type to raise, go ahead and raise.
2 - I don't like limping with AJo, you should mostly raise or fold here depending on how likely it is your ahead or behind. As played, call, your pot odds are too good.
3 - Board is ugly, but shoving is the right play. SB is probably calling no matter what, but you can get MP1 out and your pot committed anyway if you call.
4 - When you have a set on an A high board and multiple villains, bet into it. Either somebody has a hand or there won't be any action anyway.
5 - Raise pre, bet flop. Bet here depends on villains tendencies to bluff into the pot, but I would mostly bet about the same and hope villain made two pair on the river. Against one that really likes to bluff, I check and call any bet he makes.
6 - Looks right, your stack is short enough there is no need to go higher.
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06-27-2012 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofsurvivorbb
wtf is a straddle. Why do you have to ask about raising with AA for hand 1.

Same with hand 2, why did you limp AJo instead of raising.

wtf is a straddle.
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06-27-2012 , 12:28 PM
1. Fine, IMO.

2. AJo plays horrible multiway. With a straddle followed by two weak limps, I'm raising large and looking to take this down now. As played, I also call the smallish all-in, especially with all the dead money (although might be read dependent as AJo ain't doing to well against a tighter range).

3. I think it's fine to overlimp to setmine here, although I wouldn't argue against a raise. I raise more on the flop so that I can easily ship the turn, so probably upwards of $50. I also ship the flop.

4. I also overlimp preflop. I hate hate hate the flop check, let's just bet/bet/bet and get paid off by an A. I probably go pot on the turn, but whatever.

5. If raiser is opening lightly a lot then I'd rather 3bet preflop and go from there. When checked to, I'm betting this flop and going from there. Turn looks fine. I think I actually check the river. My guess is that laggy would have raised two pair type hands on the turn, so I actually don't think he has many set/twopair hands that might check this behind in his range. Board is scary, so laggy could easily want to bet it to get us off our hand; I think I check and hope to induce a bluff, to which I just call (a check/raise is never getting called by worse).

6. Being OOP, I might raise even more, upwards of $50.

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06-27-2012 , 04:14 PM
1) Fine.

2) Fine, but there's variance.

3) Fine, standard.

4) Wouldn't check flop, bet here. Absent doing this, obviously betting turn is OK.

5) Might consider betting flop. $40 on river as played.

6) Fine.

Your post is rather bizarre in that it asks for advice, but each hand is accompanied by detailed descriptions of why you performed each action and why you feel it is correct to do so. Since none of these hands are all that debatable, I'm not sure why you posted if you were sure at the time what line to take and why.
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06-27-2012 , 04:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell2Heaven

1.
Live $5 straddle UTG, Hero (SB): AA MP limp, folds to Hero, Hero makes $25
I would raise $35+ you're out of position and the mp limper is likely to call after the utg calls if the bet is smaller. then you're 3 way out of position. it's much easier to play if the pot is $100+ with $160ish behind.

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Originally Posted by Hell2Heaven
2.
Live $7 straddle on BTN, MP1 and MP2 both limp, Hero(MP3): AJ limps, HJ moves All-in for $51, folds to Hero, Hero Calls
I would raise to $25 because the player left to act has $51 and if he shoves you can re-shove iso. Limping with the AJ what kind of flop are you gonna be happy with. its tough because broadway flops hit everyone's range well.

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Originally Posted by Hell2Heaven

3.

No straddle, MP1 (very deep) limps, folds to CO who limps, Hero(BTN) [$155]: 88 limps, SB (very laggy, overplays draws) completes, BB checks

Flop($10): J78

MP1 leads for $10, Hero raises to $35, SB makes it $70, MP1 folds, Hero All-in for $153 total
over limping with 88 here is ok but i'm doing it about 50% of the time raising the rest dependent on the table dynamics. The flop is very wet and many draws will call I don't mind how you played it. Maybe raise to $50 though.

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Originally Posted by Hell2Heaven
4.
Live $5 on BTN, SB calls, MP1 calls, Hero(HJ)[$310]: 44 calls BTN checks option

Flop($20): A46

Checks to Hero, Hero Checks (mostly to induce a BTN bet and subsquent call waterfall behind, FWIW I am about 50/50 in MOST multiway rainbow boards with A check/bet when checked to me), BTN Checks

Turn: 2

Checks to Hero, Hero bets $15
Preflop fine. Bet the flop $10-$15. lead the turn 2/3 pot.

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Originally Posted by Hell2Heaven
5.
No straddle, MP1 (good player, very deep) opens to $10 (Would be doing this with 56suited, all the way to KK this deep), Hero(MP3)[~$360]: AQ flats, HJ(laggy player from hand 3.) flats.

Flop($33): QJT

MP1 checks, Hero Checks (MP1 knows Lagtard may bet if checked to IP, so he would mix some AK checks in his game), HJ checks

Turn($33): 7

MP1 checks, Hero bets $25, HJ calls, MP1 folds

River($77): K

Hero bets $35
Played it fine.
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Originally Posted by Hell2Heaven
6.
Live $7 straddle UTG(laggy player from 3. and 5.) MP limps (is deep and a thiking player), folds to SB who calls, Hero(BB)[$220]: AK raises to $40 (sized to TID OOP)
Played fine.
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06-27-2012 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
1) Fine.

2) Fine, but there's variance.

3) Fine, standard.

4) Wouldn't check flop, bet here. Absent doing this, obviously betting turn is OK.

5) Might consider betting flop. $40 on river as played.

6) Fine.

Your post is rather bizarre in that it asks for advice, but each hand is accompanied by detailed descriptions of why you performed each action and why you feel it is correct to do so. Since none of these hands are all that debatable, I'm not sure why you posted if you were sure at the time what line to take and why.
First thanks for the feedback, I posted because, when I first came to 2p2 and LLSNL i was not fully understanding concepts and I would not have played each of these hands in a "non debateable fashion" therefore as a check, just making sure essentially
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06-27-2012 , 06:41 PM
1) Ya
2) Nay
3) Ya
4) Nay
5) Nay
6) Ya

Your record is 3 for 6 (50.00%). You are a breakeven player putting you above 90.822348522396% of all participants in this exercise. Good work.
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06-28-2012 , 01:20 AM
1. standard sizing exactly what I would do


2.

I would fold here, most of his range:22+ AJ+ has you flipping or crushed, only kj,kq, a8-a10 have you ahead. just fold.
Also i would raise to 30-35 to isolate pre

3.
standard, you have a set: get it in





4.
Dont mind limping behind, raising is an option as well but in 1/2 overlimping is standard and usualy the right play. however bet 15 otf with the draws (is it rainbow) bet 15

5.
Bet 25 on the flop to charge draws, original raiser does not have a set or AK- if he is a good player he would bet these on this board. bet 25 on the flop and probably fold to a raise
6.
I like a raise to 40 especially with the LAG table, perhaps more even

at a nitty table 35 is good
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06-28-2012 , 02:49 AM
Grunch

1. Ya
2. Ya
3. Ya
4. Na, bet flop (only hands you are letting "catch up" will beat you for the most part), otherwise fine.
5. Na, bet flop (most of the time, not horribly opposed to checking), otherwise fine.
6. Ya
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06-28-2012 , 04:34 AM
1) Good
2) Don't limp. I'm iso'ing the limpers to $35. As played, call there's dead money in the pot.
3) Good. I raise here sometimes too. I would raise a little bigger OTF and shove OTT.
4) Overlimping is good here too. Don't ever check the flop here. Bet pot or close to pot on all streets and get value from an A.
5) I don't mind flatting here IP. I raise here too depending on the villain, game flow, etc. You should def be betting that flop tho. River bet is fine.
6) Good but I prob raise a little bigger since you're OOP.
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06-28-2012 , 04:52 AM
I def agree that I should be raising larger OOP with the AK in #6, again thank you all for the feedback
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