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1/2 vs maniac deep stack 1/2 vs maniac deep stack

03-16-2015 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
Never said he did. But OP didn't tell us if his bet sizes signal his hand strength or not anyway.
Why would OP need to tell us? From what I can tell OP has only played with this villain for less than 1 orbit. His normal/smallish bet on the turn followed by a bomb on the river indicates that he had some sort of equity on the turn whether it be a made hand or a draw. If a true maniac bets pot on 3 streets their range could be as wide as any 2 cards.
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03-16-2015 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by battagd1
I left about an hour later and that was the only "strong" hand he showed all night.

He literally showed his cards every time he won a pot and his range included any two cards.

We didn't play any other hands together but look forward to next game.

I supposed that against him it's ok to play my strong/made hands aggressively.
I would actually tend to play hands passively against him. Since he's the maniac, let him do the betting for you.

You couldn't have paid me to get up from this game. Why did you leave after an hour? I would have tried to play as many pots as I could against a player like that.
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03-16-2015 , 04:22 PM
In general passive lines work better against maniacs but we shouldn't just typecast all players as the same. For instance I know some maniacs that will at times play reasonably passive and other times will shove 500bbs in the middle preflop with air just for the heck of it. Some maniacs would 4bet pre with Q6 rather than call. This particular player has already shown us that he will call (play passively) with weak holdings both pre and post flop. Raising with AT preflop is good not only for value but to isolate him from other players still left to act.
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03-16-2015 , 04:25 PM
Call pre assuming no short stacks/anyone to your right looks like they are about to bomb it.

I probably call all the way unless I have some sick soul owning value read on him where I know I have the winner and he'll call my river shove.... And like I rarely/never do so I just call.
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03-16-2015 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverLosesAtPoker
Why would OP need to tell us? From what I can tell OP has only played with this villain for less than 1 orbit. His normal/smallish bet on the turn followed by a bomb on the river indicates that he had some sort of equity on the turn whether it be a made hand or a draw. If a true maniac bets pot on 3 streets their range could be as wide as any 2 cards.
Maybe. Some players including LAGs be small ott with all of their range. I think everyone agrees then that you call down all reasonable bets. I just added: don't cold A10o if you aren't willing to call down.
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03-16-2015 , 05:58 PM
I also like this line against this player. 3! preflop for value if you think it's necessary for isolation. Otherwise just call and play the inflated pot with position and a hand that's stronger than his range.

NLAP makes a good point about the river bet-sizing. I'm still calling the river, since it's only been an orbit and I don't have enough bet-sizing information on him to know if this line is how he plays value or how he plays everything.

The nice thing about calling down maniacs for value is that it will eventually take them off their game. This guy is in it for the testosterone rush of betting people off their hands and proving he's a risk-taker. Losing $300-350 a couple times to someone who "just" calls you is a real buzzkill. He'll eventually switch tactics when heads-up against you, and that's when you get to start really exploiting him.
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03-16-2015 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by battagd1
Home game. Starts with 200 buyin and after first hours you can buyin for biggest stack.

Hero - tag $900 - bought in for $600.
Villan - bookie, maniac that plays any two cards aggressively. Bought in for $2,000.

Villan has been in the game for 7-8 hands. Showed 86, 97, j8, q6.

He called an allin with Q6 on flop J23 to hit runner runner straight. He raise to $18 pre, player reraise to 50, villan called. Allin on flop for 120 and he calls.

My hand - villan raises to $18 in first position.
Everyone folds to me in late position.
I have As10h and call. Here I should have raised or folded in my mind.

Everyone folds. Pot $39.
Flop Ac9c6s

He bets 40, I call. My thought is that I'm letting him bet and get paid. I think I should have raised here.

Turn Js
He bets 60, I call.

River 2h
He bets 200. I think about it and just call. Honestly I'm worried he could have J2 and beat me!

I think I miss played thus hand on every street! Help me out.

Every street played perfect IMO
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