1/2: Two quick hands vs same villain
Join Date: Sep 2015
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V is a MAWG who’s been at the table for a few mins, he seems to be playing many hands.
Hand 1:
1/2, $205 eff, 7-handed, V in HJ limps, CO $10, BTN calls, Hero calls 22 in SB, BB calls
Flop ($50): AQTccx
Checks around
Turn ($50): 2c
H $40, only V calls
River ($130): Jd
H $50, V shoves $155, H folds
*************
Hand 2: (orbit later)
1/2, 7-handed, $300 eff, Hero $15 UTG1 over UTG fish limper with KTss, BTN, V (SB) call and limper folds
Flop ($45): 9d9s7d
V x, H $25, BTN folds, V calls
Turn ($95): 3c (give-up card?)
V x, H x
River ($95): 2c
V $65, H folds (can we ever hero call here?)
Line check please
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Hand 1 looks ok. Preflop is the only question, and it’s probably fine to flat 22 given stacks and opponents, even from sb.
Hand 2 is okay too. I’m not loving our cbet size choice. Might opt to just check fold this flop.
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Hand 1 fold pre. We're in the worst position and we're only 100bbs deep. If this were online and you could see your database you would most likely see that calling here is losing you money. You really only have one way to win the pot (hitting a set) and we dont have the right implied odds. We also REALLY need to focus on being in position. Defending too many hands from the blinds is a big leak of many small stakes players (both good/bad players).
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Hand 1: Preflop is OK but folding this OOP would be fine also. Flop and turn are fine. Check/evaluate on river. The board is so dangerous now that bet/fold isn't workable, too much of villain's range beats you. Your really hoping villain got to river with two pair because everything else that is still in the hand beats you.
Hand 2: Preflop your in too early of position for a raise with KTs. On flop c-bet is OK but just give up most of the time. The flop c-bet here is at the outer edge of what you can c-bet.
When the flop gets called by an unknown and the turn doesn't help your hand it's time to give up. River would be a hero call that requires quite a bit of history. Few 1/2 villains are bluffing this enough for calling with king high to be a good idea.
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hand #1
pre and post looks okay. We are calling $9 to win 20 + 1 + 2 + 2 = $25. So almost 3:1. Given that V is playing a lot of hands we can estimate the chance of a three bet (either from BB, or lrr from V) to be quite low, and in fact we are almost always going to be getting more like 4:1 after villain limp calls. I'd say we can basically count our effective odds as 3:1, accounting for the small chance of a three bet and the high chance of BB or especially V coming along pre. Note that stack sizes relative to the raise are pretty favourable, we are putting in only 5% of our stack so lots left to win if we do hit.
hand #2 :
7 handed so its not as bad as it looks, but probably overlimp is better. By isoing you risk building a big pot while dominated. Live poker is about patience, people often lose money trying to force things. Would not c-bet that flop 3 way either, and definitely not hero calling the river.
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Hand 1:
I fold pre. I've started mucking baby pockets in EP and in the blinds when I need to call another ~4bb+. Villains unfortunately learned to fold one pair hands to raises and without position they can pot control so getting stacks in is difficult even when we hit. Not relevant to this hand but I'm usually 200bb+ deep so getting over-setted is also a concern with baby pockets.
River is a x/f to a decent size bet, why are we betting here? Our hand is a bluff-catcher, not a value bet.
Hand 2:
I overlimp on a weak table and fold pre on an aggressive one. I'm playing KJs though so I don't hate this. Flop is interesting, I think it's a slam dunk cbet in position with overs and backdoors but I think it's a check multiway, not sure though. If I cbet here, I'm giving up unless I pick up more equity on the turn. River is a lol fold.