Was playing at a pretty loose pre-flop table around 5am last night. This is common where I play at. The later the night gets, the more crazy the table gets. I've been at this table all night but haven't been getting *ANY* cards to play. Table image is probably 'overly frustrated.' In the last hour, I played one hand. I limped JJ utg, 2 others people limped, button made it $15, I made it $55. MP called and button called and I shoved my remaining $100 on 9 high flop and got a call to double up.

Villain in question in this hand has been getting absolutely slammed by the deck all night. He is sitting on $1100 and hasn't had to make a difficult decision all night. Earlier in the night I had KK utg and opened to $12, he called and another called. Button tried to steal by making it $40, so I repopped it to $120 and V called and Button called. Flop was 8c-Jd-3s and I pushed in my remaining $150. Villain calls and flips over AA. For the most part, he has been showing down questionable holdings and getting pretty lucky (IMO) or he has been making soul read after soul read all night. Lost a few $200 pots with complete trash too. Onto the hand . . .

Effective stacks in this hand are $350

Hero is dealt 22

UTG opens to $12
Hero calls $12
MP calls $12
Button calls $12
V calls in SB for $12

Pot: $60

Flop: 2 K 9

V bets $20
UTG folds
Hero calls $20
MP calls $20
Button folds

Pot: $120

Turn: K

V bets $50
Hero calls $50

Pot: $220

River: A

V bets $100
Hero raises to $270 (all-in)

Thoughts?

Sorry you got cooled.

You should be sticking in a raise on the flop and/or turn.

On this dry flop a flat is fine with our stack size.

I guess turn flat is fine too. We should be able to stack Kx every time, so letting MP in with some garbage we have crushed works.

River is good.

I like a raise OTT. If he has a K he isn't folding so let's make certain we can get stacks in on river...even a raise to 120-130 makes certain we can comfortably shove river

Calling a utg raise in mp with 22 is questionable

As played i would definitely raise by the turn

yea I'd be surprised if he doesn't have 3 kings on the turn, might as well stick the raise in. Just calling the turn means he will probably put you on strength and not bluff the river anyway. Chances are money goes in either way but maybe he gets cute and tries to move you off if you raise turn and he was bluffing, but pretty unlikely he does anything like that on the river. Little bit better chance getting all the money in on the turn unless he has the goods himself

Standard

Calling a raise with 22's when effective stacks are 29x the PF raise, the table is loose PF and *NOBODY* is 3! at the table except me is not questionable - it's set mining.

Seems like the consensus is flatting the flop is fine but to put in a raise by the turn. I got a little greedy wanting MP to come along because he was flatting hands all night when the 'pot odds were good,' so I figured get one more bet out of him and punish the SB on the river.

Raise turn for sure to ensure you play for stacks. Sick spot on the river for Villain. He only beats exactly what you have.

Absolutely shocking result, let me tell you.

Shocking that it was one of those 1% set-over-set situations?

If you didn't know I had 22 would my river raise ever cause you to think I had AK and was flatting the flop and turn to extract more value from a weaker K on the river? If you had Kx or 99 would you ever fold to a river raise?

Anyway - in future situations - would a turn raise to $150-$175 do the trick? I guess you want to get stacks in on the turn before a scare card like an A may kill the action and scare away a thinking player.

One of your hands you described is a V who made a 3 bet "steal". Table conditions would have to be near perfect to be calling raises with 22 from ep.

Raise the flop

Yes that occurred 5 hours prior when stack sizes were completely different, before I seat changed, before new players sat down and that was the only hand that was 3! at the table. And he never tried it again after that because it was so transparent and he lost $120 in the process. Doesn't change my thought process.

Don't ever limp re-raise UTG with JJ.

Pre is questionable. Most of the time it should be a fold, but if everyone else is super passive, calling is alright.

Fold and turn are standard.

River is a call. Villain has to be opening a ton of Kx hands preflop and bet/calling river to make this a raise, and even then it's super thin. In game I'm probably still shoving though.

Why? My stack was $155 at the time. I had a plan for the hand and was committed. Limp to attract PF raises to $12, which was happening on 90% of hands. JJ is ahead of most of the tables range. Raise from UTG to isolate. Achieve an ideal SPR <1 and be prepared to stack off on a friendly flop.

I like to play JJ aggressively. If you don't, that's fine but blanket statements like "Never do X" don't hold much water. Furthermore, if the entire table is playing passive, I think you should be looking to do the opposite. Why wouldn't you play JJ aggressively here?

If you are 80% certain you can get in for 12 with multiple callers coming along and no one's going to likely re-pop it, fine, ok call. Mostly I'd tend to fold here.

Otherwise, pretty standard. Like your call line, i probably would have just continued it with a call on the river, but can't blame you for shoving either.

Sorry you were running so bad. Rough man.

I was commenting sarcastically about the "shocking" nature of the result. It isn't shocking at all on this forum, where 99.99999987% of hands that are posted in this fashion turn out to be coolers that the OP loses. I'd have put the value of my house against $1 that you lost this hand after reading about four sentences' worth of your opening post.

And yet another cliched 2p2 LLSNL post. Care to explain why? Let me guess, it "turns your hand face up"?

I don't really mind either hand. Bottom sets are always really tough to deal with. With your image if you raise the Turn you get a fold most of the time since they are putting you on a K, so the flat is fine there. You are set up for stacks on the River anyway. It is also a reason not to raise this Flop as well ... in a 'normal' hand they would also have had to hit the Flop to continue by calling your raise.

It would be a decent assumption that he had a K since he bet out on both streets, but I still try for more value on River with a c/r. You just got coolered here and you already know it.

As far as treating JJ like AA/KK UTG by l/r, that is fine also in this type of game since with it being so loose JJ plays so large IMO and your stack wasn't that big anyway. You are looking to 2x and you want to be HU to do it.

Its tough when you are card dead and these types of hands seem to go against you 'most' of the time. It just seems worse when it's part of a bad streak. Keep playing well, don't play bad and then think you did well to break even or book a win. GL