Effective stacks about 400
Villain: 20s asian with sunglasses. Loose pre-flop, typically raises 12-15 from any position, over calls often to see flops. Tends to be aggressive post flop and will fire multiple barrels in position. Has had a lot of swings due to his playing style. Working with his 3rd buy-in at the time of this hand.

Hero: Tight, quiet player. Lost initial buy-in when flopped set loses to a straight-draw on river. Mostly folding and didn’t play in any big pots for a few hours, then went on a mini heater to build stack up to about 800.

Hero in BB with KQh, 3 limpers, Villain on btn raises to 12. SB folds, Hero calls, 3 limpers call.

Flop (60) 5 players Kc10s3h, Hero checks, checks around to Villain who bets 25. Hero calls, everyone else folds.

I elected to just ck/call the flop knowing villain usually cbets. My thought was to see what turn card comes out and then make a move on the turn.

Turn (110) 2 players Ks. Hero checks, Villain bets 60, Hero raises to 150, villain all-in for 380 total.

When the K comes out on the turn, I figured what are the chances that he has a K too right? I check thinking that if he has a King, he’ll bet and I’ll raise. If he doesn’t have a king, he’ll probably check back and I can bet any non-scare river card. So I checked, he bet, I raised, and he went all-in! Now when I check/raise, he has to put me on a king right? Would he shove a boat here thinking if I have a K I can’t fold trips and he wouldn’t want a spade on the river to kill any action? I’m losing to AK, K10, 10s, 3s, and only beating KJ or K9 and lower, and maybe A3spades. Am I beat here most of the time?

yeah especially since he raised preflop

I'm trying to decide what I think about the fact that his raise wasn't a big-looking "squeeze" raise. 3 players limp and he only makes it $12 on the button? He has to know that most likely he is going to get multiple callers, which is what happened. So what is he making that raise with? I feel like this is really villain-dependent... I see some players do this with hands like JQs hoping to inflate a multi-way pot so when they hit they can get stacks in, but I see some players do this with hands like AA with a plan to put in a huge bet on the flop depending on the action.

You c/c the flop, so what is he putting you on? A weak K, maybe a T and you think he's FOS, a QJ-type hand (QJss makes good sense here because he now has a open-ended straight and flush draw, but is he the type to play this so fast with a paired board)? Then you check-raise his ~1/2 pot bet on the turn with a 1.5x raise that looks fairly weak. I could see this villain reading you for weakness and realizing that you have enough behind that he has fold equity, or I could see him doing this with TT or AK for value because he thinks that you have a hand he beats that can call him.

Tough spot. You have to call $230 to win $410 so you aren't even getting 2:1. You have to be right quite often here. I would lean toward folding here, personally, but I could see myself calling if my live reads were strong and telling me he's over-valuing AA.

Let me make sure I get this straight, because I think OP is not describing the pot and stack correctly.

Effective stack is more than $400 and hero has villain cover, so at minimum, the pot should be $800 when all the money goes in, unless of course the rake is some ridiculous percentage.

So from deductive reasoning, I think the odds is $230 to win $570 or so, which is around 2.5:1.

I can't put villain on K/10, because most live players do not raise huge with the fullhouse nuts on the turn with little risk of getting sucked out. Live players also over-value K/J, and I think on the button, I would go as far as K/8 suited for villain, who's described as somewhat loose preflop.

So I would put the range of villain on K/8 suited or better, but not K/10, K/J off or better, 10/10, 3/3, and Q/J spades. Anything else is probably too loose to raise all-in, because from the POV of villain, the odds of AI given to hero on a pair board that hero check/raised is almost certainly going to SD.

Against above range, you're 1.26:1 dog. If we add A/A to the range, hero actually becomes the favor at 1.3:1. If we remove the weaker suited Kx like K8 and K9, we're 1.52:1 dog. If we remove Q/J on top of removing K8, K9, we're 1.63:1 dog.

All of the above justifies the call for hero in this spot. Only when we remove K/J off and K/J suited are we starting to be priced out.

So the question is where do we assign the range of villain. If I were hero in this spot live, it's pretty much a call without much hesitation.

I screwed up the size of the pot because I was an idiot and did my math wrong. Size of pot should be the $410 + $230 raise that OP is facing. So, yeah, the pot is about $640 using OP's numbers. ($110 in pot before turn card comes, OP puts in $150 on turn, Villain puts in $380, so $110 + $150 + $380 = $640). So OP is getting almost 2.8:1.

I think your assessment of K/8 suited or better is tough because it's really villain-dependent. With 3 limps in front, I personally don't see many villains raising with K8/K9/KT on the button. I'm not saying they don't, only that I don't see it a lot. I mostly see them limp along and try to make their flush. I do, however, agree that a lot of live players would way overvalue K9-ish hands with a KKXX board. And the times I do see villains raise a K8/K9/KT type hand in this spot it's normally a bigger raise to try to steal all the limped money.

All this being said, I think with my brainfart math being corrected I lean way more toward a call now. These spots are hard for me to really be definitive about in a thread because I use a ton of live tells (probably more than most people) to help me in spots like this. But I'd probably need a very reliable tell that says to fold in order to get me away from calling.

Only 13 hands are tied or ahead of us, if we remove K/10.

The more I think about it, the more I think I will call in this spot. Without more information from villain, I don't see how this could be a fold.

What about CR amount, could we size it more for value? 170 - 200, giving less than 2:1 for villain and only about 200 left on river, pricing flush draw out on implied, making Kx we beat to pay more, and finally making our call on shove easier.

its pretty much a cooler if you are beat. it's not like you have K5o or something.

if you're going to try a c/r here, I would have liked to see it on the flop. I think you waited too long, and with the pot growing larger each street, a mis-step on a c/r can be expensive. I'm also not crazy about the sizing of your raise OTT. did you have a plan in place if he shoved? flat called?

as played I think you can and should call, but this is a read dependant spot and there's alot of info to process. he's stuck 3BI, you've been running good and likely shutting him down due to position, and he likes to fire off and stay aggro in position. I'm really not sure how much you're winning here, but I don't think there's any way you can fold. your hand, to him, looks almost like a semi-bluff with some combo draw, and is searching for info with your c/c c/r line and this board. he wants to ship it, I'll oblige him but I do think you played the hand pretty bad to this point. folding would be worse though, IMO.

Thx, I appreciate the feedback and comments!

Yo, result!

just c/c turn. c/raising is overrepping your hand

Oh right...

I folded thinking that he must be shoving for value. In previous hands where I've raised post-flop, I ended up at showdown with big hands like sets or better. I'm pretty sure check-raising polarized my hand to AK, KQ, or KJ. I told myself he's shoving here because he thinks I'm not laying down trip kings. I just don't think he was going blow up here with air, and QJs is the only combo draw hand that would make sense if he was to make this move. I just felt that I'm behind here most of the time to make a call not profitable.

In hindsight, knowing that he's aggro, I had a hand that had show down value and should have just c/c all the way to the river.

Feel free to let me know if my thought process is skewed. I agree that I played the hand bad and welcome comments on what I should have done differently.

Wait...so no result? Boo.