Table Dynamics: V1- V3 are really bad (like 2010 bad) and the other only kind of bad players at the table all know it and are whispering that they are the 3 stooges. All are playing 90%+ of hands free and V1 and V3 just seem to click buttons pre-and post flop. A lot of their money has come from each other and then they proceeded to buy back and get a chunk of it back. Though they are all on deep stacks I think all are stuck.

V1 ($550): 35ish Indian guy, really bad, plays 95% of hands half of them he raises varying amounts from $7 to $17. Super sticky if he has any piece of the board. Seems to be buddies with V2.

V2 ($700): 40ish Indian guy, the best of the 3 stooges, but still not good. Plays 90% of hands, thinks he is really good after each hand he plays with a non-stooge as he likes to put his opponents on a singular hand he thinks they had (if he folded). Does have a fold button but still a bit sticky.

V3 ($400): 50ish WG, Plays 95%+ of hands and just can't fold if he has any piece of the board.

Hero ($400): 30ish WG, has a tight image for the most part as I have't played many hands. We've been playing together about 2.5 hours and about 45 minutes in I had a hand w/ V2 where I was pre-flop raiser w/ Axs, flop came 8 high with 2 of my suit, he donked, I raised, he GII for ~$180 with TPMK, I turned the flush. That was only the 2nd hand I had played in those 45 minutes.

Given that we are deep with really bad villains I'm opening my range here a bit.

Older ABC lady limps, V1 makes it $10, V2 calls, V3 calls, Hero calls w/ 97 OTB. Blinds fold. ABC lady folds, V1 calls.

Flop ($42): K96 V1 checks, V2 bets $20, V3 calls, Hero calls. V1 folds. I'm floating here with a 2 pair/trips/bd flush draw, and think that if I hit any of them I could get paid.

Turn ($100): K96 7. V1 checks, V2 checks. Hero?? Thoughts on all streets appreciated.

With this playing dynamics i like a fold pre with a weak suited gapper like 9-7. Youre gonna be dominated so often with bigger flushdraws when your opponents play many hands, your trips hands is not nutted and the hand makes weak top pairs as well. Just huge reverse implied odds overall in multiway pots that quickly gets big.

The way to destroy and own these kind of tables is to be patient, and play true tight aggressive. Wait for good solid starting hands (but play them hard), and take advantage of seing the flop with a huge rangeadvantage against your skyhigh VPP fishy villains. You rape these guys by having KQ on k24 board when they are in there with any Kx. You rape them when you have 99 and they are giving you heaps of money on 9-Q-K flop with all sorts of holdings. Youre raping them when you have the nutflushdraw and they get it in for all the money with smaller dominated flushdraw. And so on. Valuebetting them to death with a huge rangeadvantage and exploit the hell out of your villains leaks of playing too many hands and dont folding.

Youre just complicating things from what i can see from this hand.Trying to fight fire with fire is recipe for disaster. Flop is a flat out fishy call in my opinion, with RIO all over the place and so many bad turn cards for your hand. If i was in the game and witnessed you overcalled the flop bet here i would have licked my lips and thinking to myself "Yes, another fish that dont know what he is doing and is passively calling/ fishing hoping to hit gin".

folding preflop is ludicrous imo on the button after a couple calls.

Flop is a fold. The bet wasn't tiny and none of your outs are clean.

As played, bet/fold the turn to about $75. Check behind any river that doesn't give you a boat.

I play it the same to this point but i might have 3bet pre. Never a bad idea to put more money in pre when you have ultimate pos vs this lineup and they often check flop around to aggressor

I think a bet here is fine, 75 sounds good

Folding flop would be crazy imo. Even if the two villains have a king and a flush draw, which is kind of the nightmare scenario, we have very close to odds to call in equity terms. We're in position and will be able to rep a lot of stuff on different runouts. If the turn completes the flush and it checks to us, we're very well placed to rep it. This is kind of the classic float that justifies playing stuff like this in position in the first place.

I think this in particular is pretty weird, if this flop is not good enough to continue with the pot laying you 4:1 then you're going to be folding OTF too often to make the preflop call profitable.

Oh and obviously bet turn, I don't think sizing matters a lot. I'd bet $60, I want to keep it smallish because we want value out of relatively weak hands.

One of the keys to this hand is that these guys are playing a lot of unsuited hands like KTo which has significant equity now but isnt crushing us, so sizing does matter. They have top pairs and flush draws with their off cards and we cant leave them odds to continue. Size this up imo. We want to thin this to HU if we can

We have middle pair on a flush draw board with a bdfd and no nut draws against two players and we're not even closing the action. This is not nearly the type of flop we're looking for. I don't agree that we have to continue on this board texture to make calling preflop correct.

I'd be fine with calling if we were only up against one person.

Reality check time. To be clear we are playing against total droolers here at a 1/2 game. Pure callingstations with skyhigh VPP, they are playing like 9 out of 10 hands dealt. They are buttonclickers, and not folding/getting sticky as hell if they got any piece of the board. "Advanced" level strategy like floating with marginal hands and marginal equity is just fancy play syndrome at its finest considering the table conditions,dynamics and the kind of villains we are facing off against here. This is like shooting tiny birds with RPG.

Our villains is playing like level 1 poker, but do we adjust to that properly wich requires to put our big egos aside? No no and no. We are 2+2 pros after all right, so we need to show off our premium skillset every single table were sitting at, and execute som advanced strategy stuff like 3 bet light, multistreet bluff- or in this example float the flop with second pair zero kicker.

Fold flop. Calling pre not terrible, but can't say id do it.

As played, are these the kinda guys who always bet when they hit? If so you have the nuts here and should bet large, described vs can't fold pair + good flush draw, or pair + open ender, etc. I'd make it 95 here.