1/2 at Rockford Charitable Games in Chicagoland area, 8 players. I have ~450, all other relevant players have 200 or more. Game is mostly passive and generally bad; have only seen 2 other players (inc UTG+2, who is only aggro player ive seen) raise pre so far.

Straddled, Hero is UTG+1
Dealt to Hero: JT

Hero limps, UTG+2 raises to 18. 4 callers, including 3 passive fish and one guy who just sat down who I haven't played with at all.

1. Is this a good spot for a squeeze and
2. If so how much should my raise be? Should generally assume players aren't overly perceptive about sizing.

Other note I felt UTG+2's raise wasn't overly strong and I don't see him calling a big enough raise here.

TY

Fold pre

^^^ what he said. The first time. Then the next time too. If you wanna kamikaze bluff your chips away, then pick a size and 3b.

never

YES THIS IS AN EXCELLENT SPOT FOR A SQUEEZE with $90 dead $$$ in the middle, just know that you're turning your hand into a bluff and repping very thin (AA/KK, *maybe AK/QQ* but most limp-rr huge UTG is the top 2 hands ime).

Your limp-rr should be to $125, you'll have decent equity against most pairs except JJ-TT if they shove, and with average ES 100bb it will be impossible for anyone to flat your squeeze. LLSNL players love to call 10bb raises 7-ways pre, and they'll do it with super marginal hands (esp. the LP ones who think they're "priced in").

Jus don't limp sc's UTG unless you plan a bluff-squeeze like this b/c they play terrible OOP in mw-pots (that's where I agree with the fold pre advice UNLESS you saw your immediate-left player preload, and you believe your table is loose-passive enough to generate a sizable preflop pot that you can profitably squeeze).

Also: don't limp-squeeze UTG with trash/small pairs, do it with the top 4 hands (AA, KK, AK, QQ) and sc's 98-QJ as a bluff - never trouble hands like dominated A's or KQ, you'll end up crushed by AK too often - look for combos that have decent equity and are versatile enough to play well against bigger holdings.

1) why did you limp
2) why do you want to turn JJ into a bluff here
3) if UTG+2 is weak here then you are not bluffing you are valuebetting
4) problem is solved if you raise pre yourself

Guys he didn't limp. He straddled.

OP you have no solid reads on UTG+2... Without knowing what kind of hands he opens in EP this is a clear fold.

LOL at both 3betting and folding.

Suited conectors play best multiway and here you are getting ~7-1 pot odds for less than ~3% of your stack vs mostly weak passive players and a likely real hand so you cant fold.

A pot size raise prices you into calling a shove, you don't want to be pot commited with this hand. Anything less almost begs these villians to call.

Most obvious flat ever.

I like making the bluff here but you do need more info. You need an idea of the raising range and callibg frequency. Also stack sizes are important here. 100bbs its pretty easy to ship it but once you get into 200bbs its hard to shove and you are not really deep enough to set up a proper cbet size. More info is required but definitely a spot you can take if the situation is right

I think with the dead money in the pot and your read on utg plus 2 a squeeze can be profitable. Id want to make it at least 110. Depending on utg plus 2's stack could a shove be more profitable?

Guy in front of me straddled.
And I kinda thought if perceptive opponents were to catch on to my squeeze I would have a fair amount of equity against any hand calling me (except JJ-AA obv, but it really doesnt look like anyone here has those hands). Most likely hands to call me/overshove are mid pairs/AK-AQ hands which i have alot of equity against. And since none of my opponents are very perceptive (except for guy who just sat down who i dont have much info on), guy who just sat down is the only one im a little worried about here.

As for UTG+2, cant describe it too well but the guy is the type of player who will almost always elect to raise over limping unless there are many limpers in front of him (ie will raise here with KJo). I honestly didnt read him for a very strong hand here and thought he would definitely fold to a large raise.

Why not smoothy we have a hand that plays pretty good multi-way