Playing a nitty, passive 1/2 game 7 handed. Hero has been playing really tight and getting too much respect. Villain is passive to the point that he has limped aces and kings already this session and then called down on a scary board. Has raised with big pairs on the flop.

Stacks are 100bb effective. I have decided to start raising pf a lot to improve my image and pick up a lot of dead money.

Two limps to me including villain, I raise to $12 with 67dd from CO. Button calls, so do limpers.

Flop ($51) Qd 5d 8s. UTG bets $10, villain raises to $25. My read is that he's never folding. Button looks like he's ready to fold, first bettor has like $120 but is giving a very weak body language. Again, everyone is passive.

Are we just piling to get stacks in?

If your read is that he is never folding then it seems pretty straight forward how to play the hand. If you hadnt mentioned you thought he was never folding Im sticking my stack in right there. I mean, most likely utg donk bettor is typically calling behind you on the flop but most likely done with the hand on turns he doesnt improve.

I mean trust your read, just dont mistake someone putting off a strong image because they are scared of having to fold to a big flop 3bet or shove

Well isn't this quite the treat for a flop for 100bb...

You must get the money in now. Also, if you raise this pre, you need to stick the money in here. How sure are you that villain doesn't raise/fold even 10% of the time? This fold equity enough makes it enough equity to get it in vs a range of TP+.

I mean, a lolminraise ish size can easily be tpgk "seeing where he's at" before it comes to you. I think its time to get money in ASAP before you miss a turn because your equity is cut in half often and you don't have the initiative. A shove may get a larger FD to fold as well.

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get as many circular representations of usd currency in the vicinity of the center of the playing structure

Lol

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So I blotched this pretty badly. I just call the flop and everyone else folds. Turn is the jack of clubs, and I miss everything. Villain bets $25 again. Hero?

Raise Flop for value

As Played Call Turn and shove any river if improving

This. We really don't know what he's pressing buttons with and now that we just called flop our fold equity is smaller now and our actual equity is cut in half. He's laying us great odds to hit what looks to be all clean outs.

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V is betting $25 into a $111 pot. Is it just me or does his betting pattern reminiscent of someone who is on a higher flush draw than we have? I would think that a significant raise on the turn might get us this pot and that a diamond on the river may quite possibly allow us to lose a significant pot. Unfortunately, stack sizes are terrible in this particular hand, so I do think the call is the correct play in this instance but I don't think we are up against Qx in this hand.

Grunch

Raise to $100, call a ship. We don't mind getting folds in this spot and we never mind getting it in on the flop with an OESD and FD only hands that really dominate us are bigger flush draws and sets. Given how you've mentioned the table is passive, I just can't really assume anyone is really that strong by the bet and raise sizing. If our raise just gets called I am calling a ship on the turn/ship it myself as the pot would be big enough considering the amount of outs we have.

I'm cool with your preflop plan at this nitty table, although I guess it looks to have backfired (we really wanted to get things HU in position here), which is either unlucky or we've misread the table or we didn't raise large enough.

My guess is facing a bet and a raise that we don't have much FE. So with that in mind, I think I'm fairly cool with just flatting and trying to hit; plus we really don't mind the donker coming along with us. I'm calling off all my chips here if things go nutso.

We'll most likely have the odds to call a turn bet plus half our outs are well disguised.

ETA: Seems I'm cooler with the flop flat than everyone else, but shipping is never bad here either; I just think we have little FE against this action, but perhaps I'm wrong. As played, even though the turn bet is lol, I would just flat and try to hit.

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Okay, I called turn and folded to $50 bet on a blank river. Lessons learned from the thread: raise for value when ahead on equity, and shoving with that much equity is still +ev even if villain folds as little as 10% of the time.