1/2 game just turned into 7 handed game. Standard bad 1/2 table, very stationy. So I decided to only play premiums(except for hand one). I have lost all pots which have gone to showdown. Hero viewed as semi-tilted and I am aware of this. Ran back to back hands into top of villains ranges. No regs at the table for a change. So far I have doubled up two short stacks. One hand I three bet AQ suited from button and get it in on Q high rainbow flop and double up pocket KK. The other I three bet AK suited and double up a shortys AA on KJJ board

Hand 1: Hero(100)BB
Villain Covers

Villain Makes it 10 from middle position. I call from BB with A4 Heads up to the flop.

Flop 23j

I check, villain overbets $30 into a pot of about $25. I shove.


Hand two: Hero (135)BB With KQ
Both villains cover

Utg straddles
Ep Makes it $14. One caller plus me from button

Flop: A108

Original raiser bets about pot($40ish) other villain snap calls.

I shove. Both Villains snap call.




Thoughts?

I normally don't question hands like this(esp. hand 1) But trying to play through downswing and dropping BI's constantly with hands like this.

Both are spew.

Learn to call and reevaluate OTT. Don't continue dumping all your chips on draws, this will not stop the downswing.

Call and reevaluate, fold if it costs too much. Study back to pot odds for a refresher.

Edit: Semibluff does not mean shove. Semi bluff in these hands would be floating, or if you are first to act set your price by donking. I'd review semibluffs and the reasons we bet as well.

Thought about flatting hand two. If I do there is over 160 in the middle. Am I really getting away from this hand if I brick turn? Turn was LOL queen btw.

I really couldnt semi-bluff min raise. And I wouldn't be surprised if i was favorite in hand one. will run numbers now

In hand 1 you are a favorite when it goes in on the flop.

In hand 2 you have a huge edge--an 11-out draw against two people.

If you get it in every time in these spots you will show a profit long term. Don't worry about the results.

However, it may be worthwhile to ask whether calling, especially in hand 2, is better than getting it in. Not that getting it in is -EV--just that calling may be even more profitable than shoving is.

EDIT: Also the call preflop in hand 1 is debatable.

Both hands I was last to act and faced aggresion. Aren't these the hands(monster draws, not just draws) the hands we don't mind getting it in on the flop with? These are the type of hands I am getting my top set cracked with.

run better

Yes sir!

Fair, but don't minraise, so shove ok.




Yes but you also said you were trying to deal with a downswing. That was a major factor in my advice.

Yes we are ok with getting it has favorites to HUGE draws. But at that point you are putting your stack in for the poker gods to decide your fate.

Both of these hands are big draws but not monster draws. The thing about big draws is that you generally need FE for shoving to be +EV. Hand 1 I don't like because your action looks so much like a draw that villain isn't likely to fold any made hand. Your OK against villains specific hand but behind AJ. This sort of hand should be folded preflop unless your getting really good pot odds because playing the flush draws OOP is so hard.

Hand 2 is entirely about how much variance you want to ride. Stack sizes and action mean you have little or no FE and you have to hit to win, your getting pot odds against all but the worse hand combinations though. The only way your not getting the odds you need here is if one of the villains flopped a set and the other flopped a straight or has a worse flush draw. It is OK only because your tripling up though, your less then 50/50 to win here.

Point taken and received. Thanks.

Okay, look at it another way. If you call the flop and brick the turn, then simply run the math and see if a call is correct or not on the turn. Your description of the table sounds like there's really no fold equity to be had by shoving.