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09-30-2013 , 06:40 AM

Leobzook

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Very loose 1/2 table SB is tightish preflop but has a ton of leaks and is obviously not that good. SB has not been out of line with agression
I have a solid image and have not shown any bluffs
Both hero and SB have $600+

4 limpers I raise A

to $12 on button

3 callers, including SB.

Flop is A

($50)

Checked to hero who bets $40, only SB calls

Turn 6

Pot:$130
SB bets $90, Hero folds

Is this fold to tight? If I call here do I call blank rivers to?

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09-30-2013 , 08:27 AM

QuadJ

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Turn depends on villain, but against a typical somewhat tight / somewhat passive but is likely to chase too much fish this is an easy fold. If villain is aggressive enough to bluff when a scare card hits hero has to call some of the time in this situation, with a plan of calling most rivers also. This is a situation where a villain who has any bluffs at all will bluff some of the time, but it still isn't worth trying pick off bluffs from passive fish.

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09-30-2013 , 09:33 AM

Willyoman

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You need to raise more than $12 pre with 4 limpers at a loose table. I'd go $20.

Flop is standard.

Turn is a good fold. No need to level yourself here.

Nice hand, just raise more pre.

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09-30-2013 , 09:37 AM

Willyoman

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Originally Posted by Leobzook

Is this fold to tight? If I call here do I call blank rivers to?

For these specific questions:

- no, it's not too tight

- if you do call turn, you do not have to call a blank river. If you feel the need to peel the turn, you could certainly do so under the reasonable assumption that villain's hand will be even more face up if he also bets the river big. Big river bets at passive 1/2 tables have you beat. So I do think your fold is good, bit if you called, you could certainly do so with the plan to fold river. It's not an ideal plan of course.

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09-30-2013 , 04:11 PM

BlueSpade

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I'm folding this like 95% of the time. When a weak player who typically doesn't show aggression suddenly starts splashing around its time to ditch the 1pair hands. Particularly when you are this deep. I'm only calling here if I've got the K

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09-30-2013 , 05:26 PM

wdcbooks

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His bet size is also very strong. Villains rarely think in terms of pot size and, in the games I play at least, $90 is a BIG bet. On that board I would rarely expect to see a one pair hand. If I had to guess I would say that two pair that is desperate to end the pot now is more likely than the made flush.

This is a bluffing opportunity I use often, and to good effect, as you are expected to have the flush when you donk the turn here. That is because most of the time they do have it. Good fold.

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10-01-2013 , 11:47 PM

Sol Reader

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Decent fold readless.

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