Effective stacks $300

Villain is unknown other than he opens to $8 regardless of # limpers in front.

Hero hasn't played any hands yet that villain has seen.

Preflop ($3)

Hero limps in MP with 3s3d. All folds to villain on BTN who raises to $8. Hero calls.

Flop($19) 10c5s5d

Hero checks, villain checks.

Turn ($19) Jh

Hero checks, villain bets $10, hero calls.

River ($39) 3c

Hero bets $20, villain raises to $50, hero raises to $120, villain raises to $220. Hero??

This is a b/3b/fold on the river, right?

No I'd call he has a 5 hear way to much or coud be spewing with al types of other hands. If he has tens or jacks full good for him and it sucks you got coolered.

TT and JJ does not make too much sense for villains line,
so you can never fold with those odds.

Btw. turn call is imo really thin when you have an underpair to the board.
Even with complete air villain will have 12 outs against you.

wow...the way the hand played out, its tough not to fold here. Villains range given action as an unknown weights heavily towards AA-QQ otf and ott. I understand that after you get 4 bet on the river you are now terrified since this DOES NOT HAPPEN at 1/2 light EVER. That being said, we need to know if villain over values over pairs. He could be doing this thinking AA is the nuts and never losing here. TT plays the hand exactly like this...jesus its a tough spot.

Ok first problem is limp-calling in MP with 33, open to 8 and you get a ton more value.
1) You may end up with position vs blinds in which case you can win via position on many flops when it gets checked to you. standard.
2) You make all the hand that want to make is 12-15 (stirctly speaking of 1/2 live games) more likely to just call behind giving you cheaper flops than check-calling 10+ which is bad IMO because when you do this and hit a set you telegraph your hand as exactly a set.

Also, this hand was played horribly weak on the turn. check calling? to what effect on the river? what are you trying to rep?

You smash the best card you could ask for on the river and your worried now about getting it in? Given the way this hand played out you get the money in and high-five yourself.
You crush his range, get it in and if he shows you TT or JJ, oh well move on to the next hand.

Given the amount of money in the pot, he's given you a decent price to call. The only hands that beat you are 55, TT and JJ. If he has those hands, so be it.

I know that it's 1 time per year you get 4bet light on the river, but I just don't think I can only include those 3 combos bc its live poker. People decide to bluff at inopportune times, do this with AA or even 5x.

Meh, typical 1/2 villain who we have seen making dense moves so far (raise to $8 with multiple limpers) is a fish. He plays A5, maybe K5s and J10 like this alot. somtimes this is 1010 but its a call on the river vs typical drooler imo.

A very valid point. +1

Would absolutely be un-surprised to see AA here.

Don't fold.

Turn is a fold in my book

Call. I wouldn't be surprised to see worse for value or some goofball bluff. Remember, most LLs villain's don't plan moves ahead, they just act in the moment. If his convoluted logic lead him to believe he could win this pot with a raise, he'll do it.

this is a call AINEC. 1/2 villains are doing this with tons of hands. Given that he opened on the button, we cant necessarily disclude 53/105/J5 suited, however, the range of hands that you are losing to is tiny.

It looks like you raised without much consideration as to what you would do if he 3b, which is no good. However, you're getting 4.4-1 on your call on the end. You can't fold. At least a third of the time (or much more) your going to get a dooler who is very proud of his A5 here.

I agree with a lot of what's said ITT. Thanks for the responses. I personally think I butchered this hand and put myself into a crappy spot here.

After reading these responses and talking over with a friend, I think the best line to take is:

Raise/fold pre, b/f flop, c/f turn, b/3b/shove river.

C/c OTT is bad, but not atrocious as long as if I hit gin I'm getting it in.

Results:
Hero calls. Villain shows TT and scoops. Ran KK<AA twice today too. Just one of them days :/

Easy jam on end. Looks fine otherwise. Cooler.

Pretty easy fold on the river.

In fact, because river is such a transparent street, I don't think I am 3-betting with bottom fullhouse EVER, unless the guy is simply a maniac.

I am snap folding to 4-bet on the river with bottom full house.

just fold the turn here. its a small pot, you're OOP with an underpair and even if you do nail the gin card, are you certain to get paid? as others have said, very thin. I would actually say very bad. as played you have to call, but I don't know what leads you to believe a b/3b/f line makes any sense? this line is bordering on turning your hand into a bluff, and at 1/2, V's RARELY raise a river bet without a hand. they just aren't that sophisticated. and if you're putting in a third bet to find out if you're beat, that's just flushing good money after bad. a b/c line makes more sense on the average. pretty tough loss, but to be honest you lead yourself here. we went from a $19 pot on the turn to a $500~ pot after all is said and done, and even though our hand is strong, its hardly worth 25x the amount it was worth after the flop.

I'm not saying to not play big pots with bottom full houses, but I think a little pot control would have helped take the sting off this one in particular.

Hide the results next time!!

I was just about to post my thoughts but now I can't.

Btw, I stacked another guy who rivered a bottom fullhouse today.

Zeebo's theorum still holds true. evidence = 99% of the posters in this thread. POKER LIVES!