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1/2 River Decision KK vs LAG 1/2 River Decision KK vs LAG

08-03-2019 , 02:24 PM
1/2, 9 handed, $400 effective.

Villain is a reg during the fall and winter, but very seldom comes in during spring and summer. This is the first time hero has played with villain in four months, but hero and villain have played ~ 200 hours together. Villain is a pretty wild LAG. I would estimate his stats to be 50% VPIP, 33% PFR, and 2.5% 4 bet (QQ+, AK.) Villain calls hero's 3 bets ~90% of the time. Overall villain bluffs wayyy too frequently, but definitely bluffs less frequently vs hero. Hero has a TAG image.


OTTH


Villain opens LJ $12 (no sizing tells), hero 3 bets $50 HJ (purely based on the fact that villain calls 3 bets way too wide and frequently) with K K and villain calls.

Flop ($103): A 8 2. X-x.

Turn ($103): 6. Villain bets $65 and hero calls.

River ($233): 7. Villain shoves all in for $285. Hero?
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08-03-2019 , 02:39 PM
I mean, your range is heavily weighted towards 1010-KK once you check back this flop after the big 3 bet pre.Most players bets their strong Ax the vast majority of the time, as well as whiffed hands such as KQ suited and stuff. So your hand is pretty faceup as a one pair hand with good showdown value once you check back this flop. Is villain good enough to attack a perceived capped range hard on a board like this in a 3 bet pot? Like on what kind of textures does he like to bluff and with what kind of sizing? For example some LAGs always goes with bigger sizing when they are bluffing, and smaller when they have it cause they want to get paid.

I feel like context, paying attention to details is often key to spots like this. The read that he bluffs not as often against you for example, is extremely important.
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08-03-2019 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
I mean, your range is heavily weighted towards 1010-KK once you check back this flop after the big 3 bet pre.Most players bets their strong Ax the vast majority of the time, as well as whiffed hands such as KQ suited and stuff. So your hand is pretty faceup as a one pair hand with good showdown value once you check back this flop. Is villain good enough to attack a perceived capped range hard on a board like this in a 3 bet pot? Like on what kind of textures does he like to bluff and with what kind of sizing? For example some LAGs always goes with bigger sizing when they are bluffing, and smaller when they have it cause they want to get paid.

I feel like context, paying attention to details is often key to spots like this. The read that he bluffs not as often against you for example, is extremely important.
Are you saying we should bet the flop to uncap our range? Yes, villain will definitely attack ranges he perceives as capped.

I thought for a while bigger sizes correlated to bluffs, and smaller sizes correlated to value, but I've seen him mix it up vs me. In general his bigger sizings are more likely to be bluffs, but he gets pretty tricky with me.
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08-03-2019 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
Are you saying we should bet the flop to uncap our range? Yes, villain will definitely attack ranges he perceives as capped.

I thought for a while bigger sizes correlated to bluffs, and smaller sizes correlated to value, but I've seen him mix it up vs me. In general his bigger sizings are more likely to be bluffs, but he gets pretty tricky with me.
Not neccesarily no, i was just doing some reflections on the fact that we look weak and capped in this spot as played. Against some spesific villains i think its an okay strategy to just bet our whole range in an attempt to take it down on the flop and thus avoid getting outplayed on later streets folding the best hand too often- but i am not 100 percent sure if that is the case with this villain.

The problem is if villain is savy enough to value pile on aggressively with any Ax here, putting us directly on a big pocket pair below the A. He got _alot_ of Ax in his range here if he calls your 3 bets 90 percent of the times like you stated in the OP.
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08-03-2019 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Not neccesarily no, i was just doing some reflections on the fact that we look weak and capped in this spot as played. Against some spesific villains i think its an okay strategy to just bet our whole range in an attempt to take it down on the flop and thus avoid getting outplayed on later streets folding the best hand too often- but i am not 100 percent sure if that is the case with this villain.

The problem is if villain is savy enough to value pile on aggressively with any Ax here, putting us directly on a big pocket pair below the A. He got _alot_ of Ax in his range here if he calls your 3 bets 90 percent of the times like you stated in the OP.
I feel like the idea of him doing this with a weak A is unlikely, based on one time I double barreled a 3 bet pot OOP one time on a K high dry board, shoving for ~1.25 pot bet and he tank folded, showing a K
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08-03-2019 , 09:56 PM
I would probably bet two streets (flop and turn) against this guy. Small enough so that he can call with worse, but not so small as to induce a bluff.
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08-03-2019 , 10:13 PM
25$ flop makes the hand easy to play
ap you're not supposed to defend river with less than tp
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