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06-06-2011 , 02:04 PM
why did you not top up to 100BBs. 98s does worse and worse the shallower you get.
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06-06-2011 , 03:18 PM
I really hate preflop. You say the table is loose preflop so we got 4 callers (we didn't expect anything else, right?), so now we're playing a 5 way bloated with an SPR of 3 with 9 high OOP. At a passive table (little preflop raising) I'm guessing preflop is close between a fold (my preference) and a limp, but raising here just seems like setting money on fire, IMO.

Flop I'm kinda lost on, but this is a pretty drawy board against 4 players, so I'm not sure what our success rate is going to be with a bet.

Given the way we played the previous two streets, I like the turn play. Methinks we have decent fold equity here against better hands, might even have the best hand, and have a bunch of outs if we're behind.

But we made this hand a lot more complicated than it had to be with preflop, IMO. It seems that we're kinda tilty due to a dry run of cards / flops recently; I mean, we don't really think that we're not going to eventually get our fair share of good cards / flops, do we?

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06-06-2011 , 03:35 PM
Pre - It's ok, but not great. SCs OOP is not a good situation. However, I think it's trivial and can be justified given table dynamics/image.

Flop - Flop bet is pretty marginal. I think we're just building a pot here tbh. This flop is pretty wet and smashes a 5 way pot's range. I don't think you have much FE and may open yourself to a raise, which would lead to a snap fold/lost equity. Also, it's likely that someone may have a flush draw which just crushes you and makes your double gutter useless.

Turn - Pretty bad. Once someone calls flop, he is almost never folding turn unless you have a strong read that he is very weak player/likes to call flop and fold turn/make hero lay downs. As AintNolimit says - it's a card that also it's villain's range and it's a card that's not going to scare anyone away since it's unlikely to have hit your range. Coupled with the fact SB is a loose/aggro villain, I think your just getting it in with very little equity. Also, your bluff has to work like 55 - 60% (i'm too lazy to do math) - doubt you have that FE.

That said - I think your only folding out TT and 99 here (maybe). If he called with 7x or bottom pair, then your bet is horrible since you just turned a value hand into a bluff. Hopefully, he has a lot of flush draws in his range.

TBH - You have to realize the difference between what you rep and what villain's perceive that you rep. Sure, a TAG might be inclined to fold a KJ or Jx here, but a Loose player is never folding anything that he called with on that board (especially since the turn card isn't a scare card).
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06-06-2011 , 03:43 PM
If I've got $100 or more in $1/2 I'm playing 89s every single time, any position, for a raise. You've got great equity against anything. It's $1/2. You'll get enough callers for it to be +EV. I'm looking for some sort of draw or a mid-pair to steal/float with.

You got the double gutter but you don't have as many outs as you think - any 6 or 10 of spades potentially hits a frush and your done. If it's me, I'm betting pot on the flop and checking any turn or check-raising the flop all-in. You want any FD's OUT of the hand to give yourself the odds you need. The flop bet looks weak and any set, 2 pair, any J, any FD is calling and beating you. You want FD's out, weak J's out, to give you enough odds to hit your hidden monster.

And to explain the first line, OOP is tough, but if you bet pot on the flop and get called, you can hollywood a bit and get a free card with a check back (free card) most of the time. If you have the right image. Which I usually do unless its early in the session.
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06-06-2011 , 03:49 PM
and the russian judges give it a 7.4/10!
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06-06-2011 , 04:47 PM
Yeah now that I look back on the hand, I think preflop is a fold. But it's a standard limp or raise if I had $200 to start the hand, correct?

On the flop, I did an EV calculation and it's a good bet.

If they fold only 20% of the time on the flop, and I c/f on a missed turn, and if I hit the nuts on the turn and win no more $ (zero implied odds), then...

The flop bet is +$2.8 EV. And turn shove is hugely +EV, which seems to be the general consensus here.
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