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01-26-2015 , 02:14 PM
V1 has been raising a fairly wide range from all positions. Not absolute trash, but pretty much any A2s+, A8o+, K9o+.

V2 recently sat down and has pushed all-in once and got no callers.

Hero in BB with QQ, 175 stack.

V1 raises EP to 12, V2 calls in SB, Hero reraises to 35, both players come along.

Flop is Kc9c2s

V2 pushes all-in for 70. Hero??

V1 covers hero.

Thanks for the advice.
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01-26-2015 , 02:16 PM
Just fold, unless you have a really solid read he is pushing with the Flush Draw.

On another note, your 3bet size is a tad small. I think $50-55 is a bit better. At that price he may fold PF netting you a win outright, but it also prices you in post flop when he shoves for $55 into $150-165 versus $70 into $105.
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01-26-2015 , 02:22 PM
Fold and kick myself for not making it $55 or so to go pre.
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01-26-2015 , 03:29 PM
I agree the 3-bet should be larger. As played, I would reluctantly fold because V1 is still in the hand. He's the original raiser and called a 3-bet with a short stack player yet to act. You may be ahead of V2 since he seems shove happy, but V1 can easily have a K or better here. I'm not eager to get into a big pot out of position with less than top pair against a player who covers.
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01-26-2015 , 06:16 PM
Is pot-size the standard three-betting size under most situations for those who recommend raising to 55? Or is this the recommendation because of mine and V2's stack sizes.

Said differently, do you still recommend reraising to 55 if all players start the hand with 150BB+?

Thanks.
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01-26-2015 , 06:45 PM
I would raise to $55 here regardless of stack size. I have a Group 1 holding and want to get money in the pot and narrow my opponent's ranges if possible. Especially considering your description of V1. QQ is well ahead of his range here so even if he 4bet jams on me, I'm probably still feeling good about getting it all in against him.

If he were a much tighter player, then a smaller 3bet may be worthwhile if its a clear fold when he 4bets you. But based on his description I want to get money in the pot. With your stack against him I'm 3betting to $55 and jamming any flop without an Ace.
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01-26-2015 , 07:15 PM
A 3-bet of $55 puts V1 in a very difficult spot. He can't be certain he'll see a flop for that price because V2 is basically in a fold or shove position. V2 would be a fool to just call your 3-bet for over half his stack.

Even with stacks of 150BB+, a pot size 3-bet (about $50) is better. You want to dump one opponent (ideally V1) and get it heads-up in position against the SB with a strong hand.
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01-27-2015 , 02:37 AM
It's a pretty clear mistake to 3bet pre to $55 unless you expect at least one caller very often. Your 3bet sizing is great, I may even 3bet to $32 because you WANT callers. At most you will only get two callers and you only have $175 to start the hand. Now if eff stacks from all villains were $300+, then yes 3bet to $50 or $55. But your stack is way too small otherwise.

We play to take the highest +EV line, not to avoid tough decisions. Yes an overcard will flop 43% of the time when we have QQ. But that doesn't necessarily mean they hit the flop and if they bluff too much, then just call them. 3betting small to keep in dominated hands is perfect because SPR will already be tiny.

Now if there were at least two other people in the pot, then I'd recommend 3betting to $55 or so
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01-27-2015 , 03:40 AM
$45-50 pre, as played I fold.
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01-27-2015 , 04:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slimshady1999
It's a pretty clear mistake to 3bet pre to $55 unless you expect at least one caller very often. Your 3bet sizing is great, I may even 3bet to $32 because you WANT callers. At most you will only get two callers and you only have $175 to start the hand. Now if eff stacks from all villains were $300+, then yes 3bet to $50 or $55. But your stack is way too small otherwise.

We play to take the highest +EV line, not to avoid tough decisions. Yes an overcard will flop 43% of the time when we have QQ. But that doesn't necessarily mean they hit the flop and if they bluff too much, then just call them. 3betting small to keep in dominated hands is perfect because SPR will already be tiny.

Now if there were at least two other people in the pot, then I'd recommend 3betting to $55 or so
This..great insights

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