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1/2 Pound 2 cool or mistake hands? 1/2 Pound 2 cool or mistake hands?

06-25-2016 , 06:58 PM
Hero play in a 1/2 pound full ring cash table.

Hand 1
V1 is quit loose agrrasive but bad player,(white middle age)he is not a reg,and just lose 100BB and rebuy to 200BB,he got 190BB when he play this hand.

Hero is a Asia young player,also not a reg in this game,V1 have no image about hero,but other regs obivous what I am doing. Hero got 300BB.

V1 open 4BB at at UTG,a fish and a ABC reg call at MP. Hero call with 8d8s at btn. SB and BB folds.

flop Kc8c6h,V1 cbet 8BB,fish and ABC player fold,Hero 2bet to 31BB,V2 3bet to 75BB,Hero snap shove,V1 snap call with KK.

On the flop,I want to fast play my middle set and get value from AA AK KQ KJ AcQc AcJc AcTc 66 and even K8 86. and when he 3bet me,I am not sure if he call do it with AK or flush draw,but at least he call do it with 66 or AA. But I donot think call is an option,during the hand I believed that I got the nuts and snap all in,and thinking if he got KK,well it is his money.

Hand 2
V1 is a bad ABC poker,no fold overpiar TPTK and such hands. he have rebuy twice and he got 75bb left.

V2 is a gambler,play any two cards (vpip 70%).

Hero got 150BB.

V1 open 4BB at mp,V2 call,a ABC call,hero call with Q9o on btn,SB and BB call.

flop K99r,SB and BB check,V1 shove,V2 call and saying(you got A9 huh?)ABC fold,Hero call,(not quite confidence as SB and BB may check A9 K9)and Sb and BB folds. V1 show KK.

Did I make any mistake? should I fold middle set?should I fold Q9o pre?





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06-25-2016 , 07:14 PM
Hand 1: Straight cooler. Against a relative unknown your money is always going in, against a known nit that you have a lot of experience with you might be able to avoid going broke but even that is hard.

Hand 2: Fold pre. Even from the button Q9o isn't going to be worth it in the long run. After that it's a cooler. V1 can easily have AA/AK and some other spazzes and V2 can easily have worse 9X.
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06-25-2016 , 07:20 PM
OP, please don't post results in the future. It biases responses. I'd edit it out, but I don't really see how I can in this case.

Hand 1 is a cooler. Hand two, not so much. Fold pre, and beware the speech. When V's speculate about a hand you might have, they usually mention a hand they can beat. I prob still wouldn't fold if I got there, but given the shove and the call and the speech, I'd consider it.
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06-25-2016 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
OP, please don't post results in the future. It biases responses. I'd edit it out, but I don't really see how I can in this case.

Hand 1 is a cooler. Hand two, not so much. Fold pre, and beware the speech. When V's speculate about a hand you might have, they usually mention a hand they can beat. I prob still wouldn't fold if I got there, but given the shove and the call and the speech, I'd consider it.


Thank you for your reply,I am new hero,sorry i donot know these.

hand 1 I agree,if V is a nit reg and donot play AK flush draw in this way I will fold middle set.

hand 2 is a bad player player open and a bad player call(effctive stacks is 80bb)

Q9o obivous donot have much equity vs 10% open range,but could I play it for implied oops? as I have pisition and skill edge? (but I donot think I can bluff them when miss,but I can get more value than they can)



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06-25-2016 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
Hand 1: Straight cooler. Against a relative unknown your money is always going in, against a known nit that you have a lot of experience with you might be able to avoid going broke but even that is hard.



Hand 2: Fold pre. Even from the button Q9o isn't going to be worth it in the long run. After that it's a cooler. V1 can easily have AA/AK and some other spazzes and V2 can easily have worse 9X.


Q9o K9o A9o are bad
how about Q9s K9s 78o 860o could I cold call these hand when a bad player open? could I play these for implied oods?


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06-25-2016 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
Hand 1: Straight cooler. Against a relative unknown your money is always going in, against a known nit that you have a lot of experience with you might be able to avoid going broke but even that is hard.



Hand 2: Fold pre. Even from the button Q9o isn't going to be worth it in the long run. After that it's a cooler. V1 can easily have AA/AK and some other spazzes and V2 can easily have worse 9X.


thank you very much for your help


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06-25-2016 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Seanish
Q9s K9s 78o 860o could I cold call these hand when a bad player open? could I play these for implied oods?
The raiser has 75BB there are not enough implied odds for super speculative hands. You need something reasonable. Depending on how bad villain is possibly 87o sometimes but that would be it. The other hands I might play occasionally if it's heads up and I'm planning on bluffing but only rarely unless villain is terrible and easily bluffed. More low stakes villains are stations then weak.

Once the original raise gets a couple of calls you have a few more options but 87o and 86o are the only hands I might play and not always. With more villains there is no reason to be the hands for bluffing.
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06-25-2016 , 10:29 PM
thanks for advise. yes for small stakes Nl these hand are not good enough to play unless they are easy to bluff


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