Borgata- Saturday Night - 12:30am

Asian Lady (UTG+1)- $150
UTG- $300
Hero (SB)- $275

This is a new table on a busy night. The game has been going for twenty minutes when this hand came up. I have no reads on any of the players yet.

Four players limp including UTG and Asian Lady and I complete from the small blind with 7-4

Six players to the flop.

Flop: 8-5-2

It gets checked around.

Turn: 8-5-2-6

UTG bets $10 in a pot of $12 and is raised by Asian Lady to $40. Three folds and I call the $40.

BB folds and UTG raises to $90 and Asian Lady goes all in for $60 more.

It's my action. I was really confused and lost about the action in this hand. Any help at all would be appreciated.

You've got the second nut straight...don't see you doing anything other than shipping. If asian lady has you, you can still collect the side pot from UTG who's obviously interested in it.

This was a limped pot. Should I be worried about running into the nuts or is my hand too strong to give it up here?

Only 97 beats you. Extremely unlikely that both villains have that hand.

Therefore with dead money and sidepots in play, you have no option other than to shove. Someone could have top 2 pair, or a set.

And fold pre. This hand is the 100% perfect example of why even when several other people limp, playing 74s from the small blind is -EV. You hit your straight and even still you might be beat.

What should be my minimum range for calling the SB with several limps before me? I thought 7-4 suited was alright in that spot. Not great but I did make the second nuts on a dry board.

I know you don't want to hear this, but fold pre. Did you have a plan for your hand? What are you hoping to do when you do the ol' "WTF? It's only a buck!" and complete the SB?

As played, you have the second nut straight. Should you be worried? Maybe a little. But then do you check under your bed every night for monsters? It was a limped open, so Villain could have anything from an over pair to a set. You started the hand with 75BBs. Easy ship.

I have almost 140 big blinds here. I don't know if its an auto ship. That's what I'm really curious to hear more about. I agree about folding pre and this hand made me agree with the last two posters who brought it up.

raise asian lady's 40$ bet. call any shoves.

if I raised to 90 for example and UTG just shipped 300 in and he was an old white guy who I thought would never ever ever do this without 97 I may (writing it hurts) fold.

If I did, I'd never tell anyone.

As played we have hidden our hand and we can't fold.

Recount.

And in the SB folding suited double gappers for 1$ getting 12:1 sounds like absolutely atrocious advice. What is he trying to do? Flop a hand...74o is perhaps a fold. But 74 isn't close imo.

Is the fact that this is a new table anything to consider? I don't know how these two value their hands in limped pots.

Sorry - my bad. All I read was Asian lady has 75BB and is showing aggression. Let me put my glasses on.....

I still shove though with second nut straight here. Villains could be anything - two pair, sets, etc.

Grunch: I'm shoving here. There's only one hand that beats us and there are lots of hands in each of their ranges that we beat: sets, 2 pair, 43, pair + Sd. 79 is unlikely, but not impossible, for UTG. It's more likely for the AL but her range is still much wider than that imo.

After reading the replies. I think folding pre is ok with eff stacks being under 100bb. I'd be completing with 75s and if all the limpers had >100bb stacks then completing with 74s is def fine. It's a borderline hand here imo.

I don't think it's a huge mistake to be completing with 74s here though, just be prepared to occasionally get into some tricky spots OOP.

Thank you. I felt that the call pre flop wasn't bad but it also opens the door for this hand to unfold as it did.

Your mistake was first completing in the SB and then flatting the repop from the Asian lady.

Fold PF. Reraise the turn is pretty trivial imo.

PF is a leak. What flop are you ecstatic to stack off on? 744, 774? Even with a gutshot draw, it puts you in dominated spots. Sorry, but playing suited low three card gappers is a mistake.

Completing with no reads is a mistake. Crazy action, but i guess this is a juicy 1/2 game. Three words, "Im All In".

It wasn't until after the hand that I considered my call pre. It is just so automatic sometimes to complete the small blind with limpers, without having a plan for the rest of the hand.

This is silly. Playing 7-4 suited is a no-brainer in this spot because you can make a well-disguised and very strong hand.

Saying that you might be beat is pretty weak thinking. Are you going to fold K-Q suited in this spot too, because you can make a flush and "you still might be beat"?

Pre-flop is fine... and this is an easy shove. Lots of sets and two pairs in their range (and even a worse straight).

As played Fist bump ship. If one of them has u beat it's a cooler. Rebuy and get them next time.

I agree that u should probably fold this hand pre. Even getting 12-1 on the initial call, your oop and can't be happy on very many flops.

But this time you ended up w/ the second nuts. I don't think very many good players would recommend you folding here.

+1. I am Mr. Nitty McNittyPants in the SB, but I see no issue with calling with 7-4s in this situation. Small raise to you? Muck it. For a $1? Lets see some cards. We often get in tricky spots in the BB in limped pots as well. That's poker.

If you're comfortable playing OOP then I really don't think overlimping here is a big mistake if a mistake at all. The thing is, pretty much every single poker player thinks that they're better than they actually are.

Playing OOP def sux and is not nearly as profitable as playing IP LDO. So if playing OOP is going to end with you making big mistakes then just fold pre. If you're questioning whether or not it's a good play, just fold. If you're an experienced player who has a significant edge over your opponents and you're getting good odds to call, then calling is a viable option imo.

I feel very comfortable with the stakes and the game. I like the call pre flop but I understand if someone doesn't agree with it.

Not to be a dick but you made this thread because you were unsure of how to play this hand right?

So folding was probably your best option.

So I'm not allowed to comment. How can I learn? I was just furthering the discussion is all...