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1/2 NL spot against a maniac 1/2 NL spot against a maniac

01-11-2017 , 02:01 PM
Playing in a sweet 1/2 NL game in South Florida. Table is pretty deep for the most part, especially V1 directly to our right. He is a YWG bad reg on a crazy heater. He's flopped sets and boats like crazy and has approx. $1.5K in front of him.

Currently he's suffering from severe winner's tilt. He's literally trying to win every hand, regardless of opponents or action. I obviously love my spot, but have been card dead for a while.

Hero is a late 20's YWG regular. Dealers are friendly with me and I've played with V1 several times. He views me as a good player, and has commented as such. Would love some feedback on this hand.

OTTH:

Button straddles to $5, SB calls, MP ($130) calls, V1 ($1.5K) calls, Hero ($230) in the cutoff has 99 and raises to $30. MP calls, V1 calls.

Flop is 357 checks to Hero who bets $55. MP folds, V1 calls.

Turn is the Q, V1 checks. Hero?
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01-11-2017 , 02:41 PM
The pot is already $210 and hero has $145 left. Any further betting commits hero to the pot. I like checking behind with an eye towards calling villain's likely river bluff. The other option is just to shove on the turn. If you think villain will call with a lot of worse hands that could be better but mostly it will just let villain fold his garbage and get called by better hands.

Be very suspicious if villain checks river. Mostly just check behind because there is a good chance villain is laying a trap.
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01-11-2017 , 02:44 PM
Check
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01-11-2017 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
The pot is already $210 and hero has $145 left. Any further betting commits hero to the pot. I like checking behind with an eye towards calling villain's likely river bluff. The other option is just to shove on the turn. If you think villain will call with a lot of worse hands that could be better but mostly it will just let villain fold his garbage and get called by better hands.

Be very suspicious if villain checks river. Mostly just check behind because there is a good chance villain is laying a trap.
I was writing a very similar response. If you bet on the Turn it's because you are confident Villain will either call or raise with worse and you want to play for stacks. There is not enough of a read given IMO in OP for me to have a thought on that. Villain will never fold a better hand here but will likely stab at most rivers.

If I was going to play a middle pocket pair for a raise against a maniac 46 BB deep I'd probably just shove a flop like that assuming I'm going to get called by all of the Maniac's 1 pair hands, pair plus gut shots and his FD+1 over hands, and probably his straight draws as well. I'd just rap the table and say nice hand if someone turned over 2 pair, a straight, or a set.
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01-11-2017 , 03:05 PM
Hero is already committed on the turn. If you plan to call all river bets, just shove the turn yourself and get value from draws. You have some outs if villain shows up with a set or two pair.

Anyone like calling preflop? Hero rarely gets HU with 4 players interested in the hand. The SPR will be super low if you get more than one caller.

I'd probably bomb the flop as played. Nearly every turn card is bad for you. Any reasonable flop bet commits you anyway.
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01-11-2017 , 03:05 PM
Ship the nickels imo
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01-11-2017 , 03:13 PM
If you're planning on calling a large-ish river bet regardless of run out just ship the turn. Thats only if you are planning on calling virtually all rivers. Its easy to tell yourself that on the turn and then have a change of heart when he bombs river.

I also dont hate just flatting pre given stack sizes.
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01-11-2017 , 03:18 PM
When you say he's 'trying to win every hand' is he calling too much or overbluffing? Kinda important, but otherwise i'd probably just ship this turn as he can have lots of pair+draw type hands.
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01-11-2017 , 03:23 PM
If V is very high VPIP loose and feeling lucky, I'm all in on the turn here, and very excited about it. He never has TT+ so we're behind to really weird 2pairs (against which we would have great equity to counterfeit and have flush draw) Sets, against which we have decent equity again with live flush draw, and flushes that V elected not to check raise and slow play. I think this is unlikely.

There are so many one pair hands V can call off here that we're crushing, especially given that the 9h is likely higher than most of his flush draws, except the Ah. But, even if he has Ah in his hand, because he didn't check raise it's much more likely he would just have a draw here and we would want to gii.


This is a fist pump shove.
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01-11-2017 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jambre
When you say he's 'trying to win every hand' is he calling too much or overbluffing? Kinda important, but otherwise i'd probably just ship this turn as he can have lots of pair+draw type hands.
Honestly both. He's making "hero" calls a lot as well as calling with weak draws not getting odds. Has also been caught bluffing in some very bad spots in the past hour.
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01-11-2017 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pony_law
I was writing a very similar response. If you bet on the Turn it's because you are confident Villain will either call or raise with worse and you want to play for stacks. There is not enough of a read given IMO in OP for me to have a thought on that. Villain will never fold a better hand here but will likely stab at most rivers.

If I was going to play a middle pocket pair for a raise against a maniac 46 BB deep I'd probably just shove a flop like that assuming I'm going to get called by all of the Maniac's 1 pair hands, pair plus gut shots and his FD+1 over hands, and probably his straight draws as well. I'd just rap the table and say nice hand if someone turned over 2 pair, a straight, or a set.
I definitely thought about shipping the flop but wanted to give Villain a chance to bluff raise given my view of his game. Also thought he might get sticky with one pair w/ $55 and find a fold if I shipped.
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01-11-2017 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JacetheMind
Honestly both. He's making "hero" calls a lot as well as calling with weak draws not getting odds. Has also been caught bluffing in some very bad spots in the past hour.
This just makes it a clear shove for value. He probably called flop with equity and it's a perfect spot to either hero call or call with a weak draw. If he had complete air and was planning on bluffing he'd probably donk shove the turn. Of course you can be behind but with 3 undercards to your 99, a Q that was unlikely to help him and a redraw to a flush you should be happy to shove here.
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01-11-2017 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jglman91
If V is very high VPIP loose and feeling lucky, I'm all in on the turn here, and very excited about it. He never has TT+ so we're behind to really weird 2pairs (against which we would have great equity to counterfeit and have flush draw) Sets, against which we have decent equity again with live flush draw, and flushes that V elected not to check raise and slow play. I think this is unlikely.

There are so many one pair hands V can call off here that we're crushing, especially given that the 9h is likely higher than most of his flush draws, except the Ah. But, even if he has Ah in his hand, because he didn't check raise it's much more likely he would just have a draw here and we would want to gii.


This is a fist pump shove.
Villain is probably playing 80%+ hands. Low aggression preflop, extremely high post.
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01-11-2017 , 03:35 PM
Thanks for the sweet feedback so far.

Is anyone just calling preflop in this spot? I thought it was a good chance to take down some dead money or get in a HU pot in position.

Is my raise size good or should I have gone bigger?
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01-11-2017 , 04:35 PM
Shoving is kinda merge-y and could be good in this spot even though we don;t have to actually worry about balance vs this type of villain - could look like we are frustrated about his heater and are making a play, so he could call down with worse.
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01-11-2017 , 04:45 PM
$30 is fine esp. considering your stack size I mean it could have been $35 if you really want to nit pick.

The only reason to overlimp pre would be if sb/mp had a high likelihood of limp re-raising and sometimes that is the case with someone like villain at the table.

This would be my cutoff tho, I'd prolly just overlimp 88 and def overlimp 77.

Ott sometimes you just gotta say "Welp, I got the best hand here alot and every river sucks and I have less than a psb left...arrr innn"

You can also add in "I can still get called by worse, alot"
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01-11-2017 , 04:53 PM
bigger bet otf imo, like $70 sounds right instead of half pot

gotta jam turn
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01-11-2017 , 04:56 PM
Spoiler:
Well I shoved the turn and he called after some thought. River is the J and V1 turns over A4 for A high. He had a lot of outs with the double gutter, overcard, and flush draw, so sweet dodge!
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