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01-15-2015 , 05:54 PM

Darnoiah

centurion

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 102

Not a specific question, rather a collection of them. Hero grinds 1-2 at local casino.

Has flopped 4 sets in last couple of sessions. Every time, Board has had 2 to a suit and has been at least 3- handed to the flop.

Hero has bet 1/2 pot - 2/3 pot on each of these flops, and has yet to get ONE caller.

==> Is this the right thing to do? Is my concern just from a small sample size? Should I be checking some, or betting differently?

Game is generally very loose very passive. Hero has been OOP in three out of four of these scenarios. Hero raised pre in two out of four of them, called a pre flop raise in one, and limped in one.

Thanks for any help!

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01-15-2015 , 05:57 PM

PokerDharma

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,212

You're doing the right thing, just not getting the results you want. I wouldn't sweat it too much. If these were all at the same table, then maybe on the 4th one I'd have done something a little different, but otherwise just keep flopping sets and betting for value. Those are good boards to check raise a set as well, as many people just put you on the flush draw, and might spew on you. But if they're a buncha passive fish who won't bet, then you have to do it yourself.

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01-15-2015 , 06:16 PM

DeathCabForTootie

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Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,722

^^^^ c/r won't work with a passive table because, well, passive players don't bet.

You should be raising and c-betting all sorts of pots and taking them down UI then.

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01-15-2015 , 06:40 PM

sierradave

adept

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 920

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Originally Posted by DeathCabForTootie

^^^^ c/r won't work with a passive table because, well, passive players don't bet.

You should be raising and c-betting all sorts of pots and taking them down UI then.

THIS.

You're taking the right line with these monster hands. But you probably aren't c-betting enough with other hands. It's entirely possible that none of your opponents had any piece of any of these flops. But it's also possible that they think you never bet the flop with anything worse than tpgk, so they're folding their pocket pairs and middle pairs.

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01-15-2015 , 11:24 PM

Nozsr

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,722

It's far worse to check flop, let them get there, and l;ode a bigger pot.

Steal more!

Half a dozen steals and you will get plenty of action thereafter.

(Don't show the steals, just take the chips.)

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01-16-2015 , 12:39 AM

bombonanza

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,173

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Hero has bet 1/2 pot - 2/3 pot on each of these flops, and has yet to get ONE caller.

==> Is this the right thing to do? Is my concern just from a small sample size? Should I be checking some, or betting differently?

a healthy cbetting frequency regardless of the hands is between 50-70% depending on table dynamics (if they are not folding much lessen the airballs and if they are weak tights cbet some more)...

its not a simple formula, you need to know the ranges, player types, board textures, stack sizes, etc etc...

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01-16-2015 , 01:48 AM

HH2010

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Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 925

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Originally Posted by Darnoiah

Has flopped 4 sets in last couple of sessions. Every time, Board has had 2 to a suit and has been at least 3- handed to the flop.

Hero has bet 1/2 pot - 2/3 pot on each of these flops, and has yet to get ONE caller.

100% standard. Ridiculously small sample size. Also don't be surprised next 4 times u flop sets, you run into bigger sets or V binks a flush

I remember a session when I had a LAG image playing a ton of pots, and yet got AA 3 times and KK 3 times and did not get a caller. Tilted me so much. Felt like I "wasted" the rungood and I would never get Aces again... lol gamblers fallacy

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