Reload: your vill is a fish and you're probably getting it back with interest.
If I have ( J
, T
) and flop: ( 7
, 8
, 3
) and put Hero on Big Slick, I fold when he pots it. I whiffed my flush draw, and have -- at best -- ten outs to beat Big Slick, and maybe seven outs if Hero has ( A
, K
) and hitting a jack or ten could be ahead temporarily if an A or K drops on the river. If I had ( 7
, 6
) instead, then I call. I have a pair and am ahead of Big Slick until it either draws out, or I have some improvement.
This would be the right play only if I could range Hero's open very tightly, but that's not possible since it's literally Hero's first hand. If I had vill's hand, and am looking at a open-raise from someone who just sat down, the suited JT hits the muck without a second thought. This vill has made up his mind, and is playing like he's against Big Slick come hell or high water. He doesn't consider that Hero could have a bunch of overpairs, or Broadway cards where he can't be certain one didn't hit if a J -- A rolls off. That's how a fish plays.
OK, let's say I find a call (maybe I was drinking, which I
never do anyway, but let's just say...) and bink a ten. From here, I call so long as an ace or king doesn't roll off. If that doesn't happen, the river is irrelevant. How is shoving into a Big Slick ever right here? The vill's thinking is: "Me has trips! Me shove!" He's -- at best -- a Level 1 thinker, and more likely a Level 0 player. SUX to lose a stack on your first hand, but if that didn't happen every now and then, players like this vill would be off-loading at the Craps or Blackjack tables, or masturbating the slot machines, or playing one or another of those dumbassed high vig games I pass on my way to the Poker room instead.
I'd try to sell it for what I thought I could get out of it. Maybe 1/3rd pot or even less: whatever I thought a whiffed Big Slick could bluff catch with an ace-high.
As for Hero, I hope he didn't show the pocket aces.
Last edited by Kyuubimon; 03-23-2015 at 09:16 PM.