1/2 NL, rivered flush against fish lady, what's our bet sizing?
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 988
My image- been winning at a nice clip in the game last few weeks but tonight I'm in fairly deep, prob a little agitated, splashing/calling too often, prob not playing a game , thinking I should be heading home soon. Earlier villian saw me reload to her stack size and ask me if I just do that because I am so mad- I replied - not mad at all just really enjoy playing big pots with you and I can't do that if I only have 200 in front- I then moved away from her to avoid agitating the fish plus lots of people are trying to get shots at her so I don't mind being a few spots away to see her action and who wants in the pot (tho I have isolated her pre a few times I feel like I'm starting to get called by others more pre w my image tonight and don't wanted bloated pots oop w reasonable players behind
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Her: horrible rich old lady calling station who cleared a g the night before and has actually bluffed a few flops and rivers and been looked up, splashing around and playing almost every hand, I doubled up her aces earlier when she flatted a flop bet that I pushed over w NFD earlier, so we have history
I baby raise to 4 utg w Qc 10c (10 handed, sometimes these little raises let you get into a cheap multiway pot, which I don't mind doing with this holding since I can fold toppest pair if I'm beat)
4 callers and she makes it 14 in the CO
I call as do 2 limpers
Pot (70)
Flop 4c 9h Qd
I check, checks to lady, she bets 25
I min-raise to 50- feel like this gets me heads up, pretty sure shed have bet more w AA or KK otf, ive seen her fold a flop minraise earlier tonight, I think she calls w any Q (she might open a suited q pre, she opens somewhat wide pre, suited trash etc) but also shell now call w smaller pocket pairs, def 11-jj, she could have qj, think she comes back over w kq, aq which sucks for me
She calls
Pot (170)
Turn 2c
Board Qd 9h 4c 2c
I block bet 20- I really want to see a river, this prob prevents her from bluffing me off w smaller pairs, and may freeze her w med/better queens, I want my frush
She calls
River pot 210
Qd 9h 4c 2c 8c
Gin. I bet ???????
We have 290 behind, she prob doesn't realize how big pot is, she thinks I'm coming after her, we have history
Shove? Not bad, I like overbetting when I make the nuts in an unexpected way, but I might lose her lower pockets, I have 200 in green so I can use those to make it seem more callable etc
Could also see a PSB or smaller that gets called by wider parts of her range
What's your size?
Join Date: Aug 2009
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You have top pair + FD vs a huge fish who is a calling station who likes to bluff and will SD weak hands and you only bet $20 into $170 after she called your min raise OTF? What are you blocking with the turn bet? What if she raises, are you folding? I agree with the turn bet, but I think it should be more. If you really think she has no idea how big the pot is (A lot of people will associate a $20 bet with a small pot and a huge river bet will scare them off.) An overbet on the river screams frush! and she will likely fold. If you wanted to play for stacks on the river, you should have bet more on the turn. I would make it $145 hoping that doesn't run her off.
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Your turn bet size is bad imo. Just make 1/2 psb, then you have an easy
shove on the river. And i doubt that she blfuf raises the turn with smaller
pairs and your small bet rather induces a bluff raise than prevent her from doing
it.
As played, i would just shove. The way you described villain i doubt that
she is playing attention to bet sizes, so a shove should get called by the same range as a 150-200$ bet.
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I shove.
We probably can't bet/fold $100 cuz we'll be getting over 3:1 to call, so any reasonable bet leaves us committed, methinks. But it could set us up for a sucky situation where we donate a huge stack to AKs that called our minraise on the flop, so I might be wrong on this.
Our hand is well disguised.
Plus JT just got there.
The only hands we probably lose to a shove are JJ and TT. AA/KK/AQ/KQ+ will still call enough, methinks.
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