UTG just sat down. He's in his early 20s. Three other players at the table are friends of his. One of the friends just got crippled, and he and the new kid just decided they're about to go play blackjack. It appears they will be getting up soon.

UTG+1 had a lot of chips but has been bleeding them off. He had a couple bluffs shown to him on the river, and that seems to have tilted him. He plays a fair amount of pots, limping sometimes, but also coming in for a wide variety of raises.

My image is extremely nitty. I've had one of the coldest runs of cards I can recall, only raising 10 pots in 6.5 hours.

UTG ~$250, UTG+1 $300+, I have ~$215.

UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, I raise to 14 in MP with TT, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.
Flop (45): 996
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets 18, I call, UTG calls.
Turn (99): K
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets 33, I call, UTG calls.
River (198): 7
UTG open folds and leaves the table with his chips, UTG+1 bets 70 fairly quickly, I...?

Thoughts on all streets appreciated. Thanks.

I'd raise to 18-20 pre especially since there are two limps. 1010 is a hand I want to play heads up. Call on flop and turn is standard, raising often pushes off worse and folding is bad cause u often have the best hand. As played I think river is a fold. He has 9x, kxhh, 108hh, or 85hh too often IMO. If he is the type to bluff often then I could find a call but otherwise I'm folding

I used to be prone to raising the flop in this spot, but I tend to shy away from that now, especially with another player to act behind me. While I think I'm ahead most of the time, my hand is vulnerable and raising creates an unnecessarily volatile situation in my opinion.

I generally dislike calling multiple streets unless I'm slow-playing an absolute juggernaut, as I prefer to be the aggressor. However, calling seemed to be the best option on this flop.

I considered the king a pretty safe card, really only worrying about Kx. Of course, I didn't feel great when the kid over-called a second consecutive street.

The fact that the kid open folded really changed the dynamic of the river action. The more I think about it, that was a pretty careless thing for him to do.

OP, if you're going to play like a calling station then you need to call the 1/3 psb on the river, since the 7 changes nothing. And if you're really wondering whether you should call the river then you should have folded the turn.

is he leading with a 9? most players would check to the raiser attempting a c/r. the small bet ott would make me question the strength of his hand, but no doubt hes capable of betting this small if he has no awareness of the size of the pot.

in the end we may get value owned sometimes but i don't think i'm folding the way the hand played out with the odds we are getting, and the fact that he could be tilting and bleeding chips away.

A player down a lot of chips just made a weak sized donk bet on the flop when he was in a prime position to go for a checkraise if he had a monster, then he follows that up with a weak sized turn bet (on a flushdraw board with two flop callers). His hand looks a lot like a FD to me trying to set his price. Then on the river the FD missed and the other guy folds out of turn thus increasing the probability that a guy down on his luck is gonna go for a river bluff with his possible broken draw. Given the good odds we're getting to snap off a bluff, after what just transpired, I'm calling and feeling good about it.

kid open-folding = 100% flush draw obviously

And this.

easy fold.

Interested in the action throughout the hand as a whole, not just on the river.

I agree that after calling the turn bet, I probably need to call the river bet as well.

Since "calling station" generally has a negative connotation, I take it you're not impressed with how I played the hand. In that case, how would you have played it differently?

Agreed. I didn't think he would make that flop bet with a 9.

He didn't fold out of turn. He was first to act. I suppose he didn't technically do anything wrong.

I didn't feel fantastic about it, but I thought I had to call and I was confident with the way I was thinking about the hand.

If he did have Kx, I didn't think he would go for another street of value after not improving on the river against someone who had already called two bets.

Although calling all the way down isn't terrible, you are facing two players with a very vulnerable hand. I might have raised on the turn to $100, which now collects extra money from but also prices out any straight or flush draw or any Broadway hands like AQ/AJ/QJ. Furthermore, anyone with a draw who misses the river likely isn't putting any more money into the pot unless he tries to bluff at it. Finally, if the turn raise is called I'll feel better about folding the river to a decent size donk bet, especially with 3 players in the hand.

I am raising this flop to 50.

half the deck cuts your value on the turn, heart, 6, j,q,k a are all bad cards for you

make flush draws pay/identify themselves

a raise here, will get reraised by a bare nine given the wet board

bigger raise preflop yes but why not raise the flop

We will often have the best hand here and raising will probably win this hand right there and then. If we get reraised it is obviously a fold and when we our raise gets called we can reevaluate on the turn depending who called.

When we just call this flop V2 will call with almost all his hands and we will have a hard time on the turn with two V and we have no idea what we are up against

"The 7 changes nothing so we need to call."

I see this thinking all the time; it's a bad habit to get into. We have new information to process - it just didn't happen to come in the form of a new board texture. The new information is that the villain fired a 3rd barrel and it would be irresponsible to ignore that by just lazily saying "Oh well, he was going to fire a 3rd barrel 100% of the time." That's just not true.

We are now trying to call off a bluff, whether it's a pure air bluff born out of frustration or a 6x that didn't know what else to do. Can we make his range 20% bluffs? I don't know. But it's going to be really hard to objectively decide that with any sort of accuracy.

A good case can be made for either calling or folding, just make sure your reasoning is deeper than "the 7 changes nothing."

I didn't think I needed to give the long version: "The 7 changes nothing, so if you think you were ahead on the turn you are likely still ahead on the river. The fact that your opponent only fired a 1/3 psb on the river means you need to be good only >25% of the time to make this a profitable call with your somewhat underrepped hand."

Feel free to accuse me of lazy posting, not lazy thinking.

Haha alright, a small note though, 1/3 PSB means you need to be good 20% not >25%

I'm either/or preflop with TT. I'm fine with overlimping multiple limpers and almost setmining, especially in MP, but I'm also cool with raising.

Has villain shown any bluffs yet? Most villains would check a 9x/66, but sometimes they do just donk out (especially against a tight player who they put on an overpair). Although he's setting a nice price if he's on a draw, I also just call. I'm a little concerned when the other guy calls too; what, is everyone on a draw?

Even though the turn bet is small, I think I'm done with the hand now. Dude is now betting into 2 players that called this flop. HU I think I would *consider* calling down, but 3way, meh. Might be player dependent. Obviously if he hasn't shown any barrel bluffs then we should fold, whereas if he's done this a lot we might have to showdown.

I think we have to make up our mind on the turn. If we're calling the turn and a blank comes on the river (which this card more-or-less is, unless he was on a flush + gutshot draw), then I think we have to call the river.

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Raising to $100 on the turn leaves me with a little more than $80 behind, at which point, folding is pretty bad, isn't it?

I think you can make a case for raising the flop. I'd certainly rather raise the flop than the turn because:

1) I'm more likely to have the best hand on the flop than after all three of us have seen that turn card.

2) I can raise the flop without committing my stack. That's not really feasible on the turn.

Who is V2? UTG? He's not calling with almost all his hands just because I call. If he has a flush draw, he's calling whether I call or not. However, most hands are going to miss a 9-9-6 flop with two hearts, in which case, he's probably folding.

I get what you're saying, but it is worth noting that 7 is way different than 7.

You do make a good point about considering the hand as a whole and not just focusing on the river card when making a decision. He did fire three consecutive streets. So what does that mean?

As I said before, I don't think he's going for value again on the river with just Kx. Also, I don't see a lot of players lead out with trips or a full house here (on the flop). If he did have three nines, I would expect a larger bet on either the flop or turn or both to protect against straight and flush draws.

The idea of him setting his own price with a draw made sense to me. Then again, he could be making very good value bets with 66 or something.

Eventually, I came to the conclusion that it was either a monster or basically nothing, and the price was too good to resist.

That's kind of what I was thinking. My decision to call was made a little easier by the fact that I no longer had to worry about the kid sitting behind me.

Result:

I called, and he didn't show but said he just had a 6.