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04-01-2015 , 12:18 AM
Daily 1/2 nl at local casino:
Hero (button) $300 chip stack
Villian#1 (UTG+2) $200 chip stack
Villian#2 (bb) $300 chip stack (regular at the casino)

Pre-flop: couple players limp Hero raises to $10 with QQ
both villians call. Pot: $31.

Flop: J69
Villian#2 check, villian#1 check, Hero bets cbets $20.
both villians call. Pot: $91

Turn: K
Villian#2 thinks for like 30sec and bets $100.
Villian#1 folds, Hero thinks then mucks his QQ.

I put Villian#2 on a hand like Ax

Any insides ? Thanks,
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04-01-2015 , 12:24 AM
Raise bigger pre-flop, as villains will call bigger.

Flop bet can also be bigger (full pot) to get more value.

Turn is a fold. Villain is leading out into two people, your QQ is pretty much drawing dead.
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04-01-2015 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Edpoker123

I put Villian#2 on a hand like Ax
Soul reads = not learning. Reply with each street of a possible range for each Villain. Then, calculate your equity based on Villains narrowed range.
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04-01-2015 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bip!
Raise bigger pre-flop, as villains will call bigger.

Flop bet can also be bigger (full pot) to get more value.

Turn is a fold. Villain is leading out into two people, your QQ is pretty much drawing dead.
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04-01-2015 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bip!
Raise bigger pre-flop, as villains will call bigger.

Flop bet can also be bigger (full pot) to get more value.

Turn is a fold. Villain is leading out into two people, your QQ is pretty much drawing dead.
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PF raise to $15. A $10 raise is fine if we're opening the action, but we should be adding at least $2 for each limper. So in general, raise $12-$15 over one limper, raise $15-$17 over two limpers, etc.

Flop is super wet. I expect villains to peel this flop quite often, which means we can bet full pot.

Turn is an easy fold.
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04-01-2015 , 09:57 AM
I don't like standard raise sizes. $10 seems like a good "value" raise cause it's easy to be called by weaker hands at 1/2, and it's still a substantial 5x raise. Also, raising a set amount plus an amount for each limper is not-optimal, since you are not thinking about your bet-sizing on later streets.

But your SPR against a $300 stack is 10 in this hand. Yuck. What you really wanted was $50 or $60 in the pot when you went to the flop. So dial in your pre-flop raise size accordingly. If people are limp/calling (like the do A BUNCH at 1/2), then punish their mistake by making them limp/call a big number. Your pre-flop raise should have been to $18 or $20. That may seem like an easy way to win the blinds, but if you're playing like this consistently, and a fair amount of your raises are $15+, then your raise will not look so suspciously strong and you'll get calls, particularly from smaller pairs that have a real hard time out-flopping you. So if you're going to be taking down a lot of pots on the flop, they might as well be big ones.

RAISE MORE PRE-FLOP

Then on the flop you should be able to set up a turn shove, or just get it in profitably against drawing hands that made an epic pre-flop mistake, or AJ that made top pair.
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04-01-2015 , 10:26 AM
$10 where I play will get called by the entire table, so I would have gone larger. Also, we want value and we do not want multiple callers with QQ.

Probably bet pot on this wet flop.

As played, turn fold is fine.
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04-01-2015 , 11:23 AM
Note: No real reads on these Vs. "Regular" doesn't really tell us much.

PF: I'll assume a "couple players" means two. $10 is too low; my default raise would be ~$14.

How can the pot be (3) handed with $31 in the middle, if there were two limpers before your raise, the BB calls your raise, and "both villains call".

F(31): (3) handed. SPR is 6.5 and 9.6. Possible drawing hands: QT, 87, T8, KQ, AdXd. Lot of cards on the turn may be bad for us: A, K, Q, J, T, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, any diamond. Pretty much the whole deck. I think the 65%P bet is OK, but I'd probably make it slightly higher at $25.

T(91): (3) handed. Well, the Kd is bad; it completes the QT OESD, the flush draw, and of course any hand with a K is now beating us. V2 is potting against two players here which is very strong. I'm folding here.
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