Hi, playing at a local casino, decent reg at this game.

Hero (Approx $400)
Vil (Approx $300)

Vil Just bought in $300 played about 3 or 4 hands. Young kid, never seen him before.


He straddles to 4, I am in the BB with JJ. 2 Limpers, I raise to $19. He calls pretty quickly and the other 2 fold.

Flop 875 (Pot $47)

Hero bets $24. Vil Raises $65. Hero

Honestly, I think I'm just folding here. Villain straddled, and has played 3/4 hands and he just sat down. So I'd say hes pretty loose, and will defend his straddle with just about any connectors or SC.

If we do call here, theres only 1 card I want to see OTT and that is a J. We could catch a 9/10 OTT, ad hope to hit runner runner straight, but I doubt thats happening. As played I think I just fold here because theres so many cards that can come OTT that make us hate our hand.

Huh. What hands would V play this way? TT, 99, 88, 77, 66, 55, 87s. Maybe AK? AQ? (Not so sure about those.) A8s? A6s?

If we give V this full range, then we have 64% equity:

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board: 8C7D5H

Player	Equity	Wins Hi	Ties Hi
jcjd	63.9750%	62.6456%	2.6589%
TT-55,AK-AQ,Ax8x,Ax6x,8x7x	36.0250%	34.6955%	2.6589%

If we take away the AK, AQ hands, then it looks like this:

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board: 8C7D5H

Player	Equity	Wins Hi	Ties Hi
jcjd	55.2974%	54.2059%	2.1829%
TT-55,Ax8x,Ax6x,8x7x	44.7026%	43.6111%	2.1829%

Still pretty good.

Even when we take out the draws with one or more 6 we have better than 50% equity:

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board: 8C7D5H

Player	Equity	Wins Hi	Ties Hi
jcjd	53.1197%	51.9814%	2.2766%
TT-77,55,Ax8x,8x7x	46.8803%	45.7420%	2.2766%

I think we call here, looking to shove a turn that is not an A, 9, 8, or 4.

But I can't wait to hear why I might be totally wrong.

In my experience, straddlers could really have ATC here. At this point I would definitely put villain on an 8x holding, however, he could have missed completely and is 3 betting air knowing that this is a dangerous board for the ATC hand. In this situation he's probably putting you on a big ace so, I would call and re-evaluate the turn.

you have no history with the villain and no real hand. There are not many cards to come that are going to feel good for you. I would fold here 70% of the time and shove the other 30%.

I think he can have any two cards preflop here. He just sat down and is trying to develop a table image as a gambler, or he is a gambler.

I can see a fold. But, doubt I do here....yet. I need to see a turn since I feel villain could be bluffing a str8 draw here. If a rather innocuous card falls, I think I am c/c'ing again. I don't want to push too much money around here because I feel we would be overplaying our hand. However, I think we have outstanding sd value as long as the str8 doesn't complete. Villain will likely rep any overcard, too.

id widen villains range a little mroe to include all 2 pr combos sooted and offsuit. also id put in 67/56 combos again sooted and offsuit. if u want to and think villain is capable of flatting QQ then put that and 69/46 sooted if you think hes that wide. ppl defend their button straddle with a passion.

+1 to kenji, how are connector hands not in range here? 98, etc.

I like a bigger flop bet closer to 35.00 or so.

Ok. I called the flop. Turn was a 5.

I checked. He bet out $75.

If I think I am good on flop I probably just go with it? I was very confused this hand.

Grunch,
I'm assuming your OOP, not clear from the post. I'm Flatting OTF since V's range is super wide and you're pretty deep. ReEval OTT and folding to bets over 2/3rds pot.

I think I like donking the turn here. I can put him in a situation where he plays his hand very straightforwardly. If he calls, I have to think about following through on a river and have him on draws and hands that have me beat. If he raises, I know I'm beat. And, he may fold. However, without thinking this through (it's late at night), I may even fold out a decent portion of his range.....I just don't know if I fold out better.

I feel I set my price by betting into him and confuse him......where he can make a mistake. But, I have no plan for a river yet. So, you have to take my response here with a grain of salt.

As played, I don't think either villain or hero sees the turn card as changing anything. I don't think we gain any info here. If we were best, we likely still are. If we were behind, we likely still are. This is why I like donking into him. I think it gains us cheaper info than c/c'ing here.

I think I misplayed this hand horribly.

I folded the turn and he showed me a K???

generally b/f

but in this spot raise to $175 and call imo

also cbet larger


if he has JJ+ hes reraising pre since he straddle no need to slow play
flop he has ton of gutters OESD with an over T6 56 type things

I believe you were still ahead, unless he had K5, which is also in villain's range...plus he only showed you the K. He maybe wants you to think he was bluffing, but in reality, he got lucky.

Ya good chance he had K8 and thought he was ahead.

C'mon, people. He doesn't raise with K5 or K8....or AK. He doesn't even call the 19 with K5 with two others to act and him acting 2nd on the flop in a big pot. He flatted you with both Kings. Why else would he show only one? He wants you to think he bluffed you when he didn't. He is also raising the flop and betting the turn super small suggesting he wants value and isn't afraid of how that board affects your range compared to his holding. He's trying to get paid.

this statement doesnt make much sense. first i dont think hes folding and if he does, that means we had him beat, and were getting a worse hand to fold which is not what we want. so if he calls you have him on BOTH draws AND hands that have you beat? so this means you didnt narrow his range at all. and u said if he raises you, then he has you beat, yea probably so, but if he has a boat/trips here i think hes just calling too.

i dont think donking lets us see what he has at all. it keeps his range as wide as possible. he will flat any 2pr/boat/pr+draw type hands no matter what. if we check then he will probably check behind all but boats/trips. i dont think this is a very good idea.

Posted results too fast IMO.

Against the straddle defender HU, I think the flop bet needs to be stronger. Your sizing seems fishy, especially since your PF raise looks an awful lot like a squeeze with air and then a weak follow through.

As played, call the flop raise, c/c the 5 turn and c/c most rivers. If he's trying to turn an 8 into a bluff, let him. He sounds like a bit of a spewtard.

He had K6. I would've called and he wins on the river. You probably would've won though. Lol I dunno just my guess.