1/2 NL AKcc facing turn shove w/ TPTK
03-19-2016
, 12:39 PM
V: (320) Has been sitting for about an hour, has opened twice and folded every other hand. Younger white guy (20's) bought in for 200 and won two hands hand w/o showdown for decent pots
Hero: (480) Young TAG. Solid image and haven't been getting out of line.
Preflop:
1 limper
Hero raises to 15 with A
K
folds to V in BB who 3b to 45
Hero flats
Flop (87) K
97
V leads 80
Hero calls
Turn (247) 6
V shoves for ~200
Hero???
How is the line so far and wtf do i do. I am hoping to chop no? He's got KK(1 combo) AA and AK only I'd assume. Looks like he is setting up for value shove on turn (not sure AK would play this way always)
Hero: (480) Young TAG. Solid image and haven't been getting out of line.
Preflop:
1 limper
Hero raises to 15 with A
Kfolds to V in BB who 3b to 45
Hero flats
Flop (87) K
97V leads 80
Hero calls
Turn (247) 6
V shoves for ~200
Hero???
How is the line so far and wtf do i do. I am hoping to chop no? He's got KK(1 combo) AA and AK only I'd assume. Looks like he is setting up for value shove on turn (not sure AK would play this way always)
03-19-2016
, 12:52 PM
1. you should have been thinking about your plan when you decided to call preflop instead of 4!
2. you should have definitely had a plan when you called the flop instead of raising.
3. If you called the flop and fold to a turn brick, you need to take some time away from the table and think about why you're making each play because your decisions on each street are questionable and have led you to this point.
AP - If V thinks of you as a solid TAG who made a 7x raise preflop, and V still 3! out of position to 45, and just watches you call the 3!, what range does he really put you on? Myself, I'd think you had Jacks.
yet you called the pot on the flop with a K out there, so it is much less likely you have jacks and much more likely you have a poorly played AK.
And now he shoves a brick on the turn which makes me think he puts you precisely on AK and has AA / KK and wants full value OR (much less likely) he's got something that doesn't want you to call the turn (like QQ, JJ, TT, or a smaller pair) and thinks you're good enough to fold to a shove.
And even if he has A K for a current chop, he has a lot more equity than you (60/40), making a call if you can put him on exactly AK about even money.
2. you should have definitely had a plan when you called the flop instead of raising.
3. If you called the flop and fold to a turn brick, you need to take some time away from the table and think about why you're making each play because your decisions on each street are questionable and have led you to this point.
AP - If V thinks of you as a solid TAG who made a 7x raise preflop, and V still 3! out of position to 45, and just watches you call the 3!, what range does he really put you on? Myself, I'd think you had Jacks.
yet you called the pot on the flop with a K out there, so it is much less likely you have jacks and much more likely you have a poorly played AK.
And now he shoves a brick on the turn which makes me think he puts you precisely on AK and has AA / KK and wants full value OR (much less likely) he's got something that doesn't want you to call the turn (like QQ, JJ, TT, or a smaller pair) and thinks you're good enough to fold to a shove.
And even if he has A
K for a current chop, he has a lot more equity than you (60/40), making a call if you can put him on exactly AK about even money.
03-19-2016
, 01:11 PM
Quote:
1. you should have been thinking about your plan when you decided to call preflop instead of 4!
2. you should have definitely had a plan when you called the flop instead of raising.
3. If you called the flop and fold to a turn brick, you need to take some time away from the table and think about why you're making each play because your decisions on each street are questionable and have led you to this point.
AP - If V thinks of you as a solid TAG who made a 7x raise preflop, and V still 3! out of position to 45, and just watches you call the 3!, what range does he really put you on? Myself, I'd think you had Jacks.
yet you called the pot on the flop with a K out there, so it is much less likely you have jacks and much more likely you have a poorly played AK.
And now he shoves a brick on the turn which makes me think he puts you precisely on AK and has AA / KK and wants full value OR (much less likely) he's got something that doesn't want you to call the turn (like QQ, JJ, TT, or a smaller pair) and thinks you're good enough to fold to a shove.
And even if he has A K for a current chop, he has a lot more equity than you (60/40), making a call if you can put him on exactly AK about even money.
2. you should have definitely had a plan when you called the flop instead of raising.
3. If you called the flop and fold to a turn brick, you need to take some time away from the table and think about why you're making each play because your decisions on each street are questionable and have led you to this point.
AP - If V thinks of you as a solid TAG who made a 7x raise preflop, and V still 3! out of position to 45, and just watches you call the 3!, what range does he really put you on? Myself, I'd think you had Jacks.
yet you called the pot on the flop with a K out there, so it is much less likely you have jacks and much more likely you have a poorly played AK.
And now he shoves a brick on the turn which makes me think he puts you precisely on AK and has AA / KK and wants full value OR (much less likely) he's got something that doesn't want you to call the turn (like QQ, JJ, TT, or a smaller pair) and thinks you're good enough to fold to a shove.
And even if he has A
K for a current chop, he has a lot more equity than you (60/40), making a call if you can put him on exactly AK about even money.
I debated a 4b/f pre, but I figured with position I'd be able to use that to my advantage by flatting.
If V slowed down on turn I was going to go with it, however I didn't like a raise on flop because everything worse folds and only better calls and I'm not getting anything better to fold given stacks. I can't fold since I have the toppest of pairs, thus I went for a call. (just my thought process, could be wrong)
