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08-18-2015 , 04:21 PM
Playing 1/2 at pretty standard loose passive table.

Villain is an Asian guy in his early 40s on my left and one of the better players at the table. Aggresive post but pretty passive pre. Have seen him limp with a lot of hands like K6s, T9o, etc. mostly to get in hands with big fish but we don't have much history as I've been largely card dead. Main target at the table is BB who is big whale and can't fold any pair/draw postflop.

Effective stacks are about $280

Hero gets AcJd UTG +2 and makes it $15
Villain Calls
BTN calls
BB Calls

Flop (~$55 after rake): JsJc6s

BB check, Hero bets $40, Villain calls, BTN and BB fold

Turn ($135) 3s
Hero checks (??), villain bets $50, hero calls

River ($235) 2s
Hero with $175 behind ??

Any comments on turn and river ideas welcome.
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08-18-2015 , 04:44 PM
Fold pre-flop. An unsuited hand, bad position against a player who gets aggressive after the flop....FOLD.

Definitely lead the turn. Yes the flush draw go there, but so what? Your opponents can continue on the flop with a whole bunch of hands besides just flush draws. If one of them hit the flush, they will raise you and you can fold. Simple. BET/FOLD

As played, I jam it in on the turn after his raise. His raise is very small and could easily be a blocking bet, or semi-bluff with a pocket pair. If you're called, you still have equity, which is an important factor in deciding whether or not to bet.
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08-18-2015 , 04:49 PM
Ship river. The best bet is he's got Jx and you're stacking him.
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08-18-2015 , 04:52 PM
Spex, what raise on the turn? Looks like hero check/called.

I don't mind the turn check/call, given described villain. Keeps your range wide and invites him to bluff with all his floats. Also keeps us out of a situation where we bet, he semi-bluff raises, and we're forced to fold the best hand.

Now on the river, I think this is a check/fold. I would check very quickly, since that's what 1/2 players who were chasing with the Ace of spades are usually going to do.

I don't think this river is a good spot to bluff or block.
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08-18-2015 , 04:59 PM
PF is meh, don't hate raising even with a LAG behind depending on the rest of the table. Fold is fine as well.

Flop is actually a great spot to c/r with the best relative position. LAG should bet flop a ton when checked to, and then you can bet BTN and BB stuck in the middle.

I'd lead turn for value, even if V is a LAG, once he calls flop he's going to check back turn with a ton of hands (e.g. PPs with a spade), and I don't know how much complete air he has when he flats flop with two players behind.

As played, river is definitely a check. Probably a c/f unless you have some sick soul read that he's bluffing.
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08-18-2015 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Burnit3x
Ship river. The best bet is he's got Jx and you're stacking him.
Don't do this. The fourth club hit, you're not getting called by a worse hand.

As played, check/fold the river.

If villain has Jx with no club, I will bet my house he checks it back.
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08-18-2015 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sierradave
Spex, what raise on the turn? Looks like hero check/called.
eh, vocab schmocab

My point was.....check-raise-all-in
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08-18-2015 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SpexDome
Don't do this. The fourth club hit, you're not getting called by a worse hand.

As played, check/fold the river.

If villain has Jx with no club, I will bet my house he checks it back.
Ah, missed that 4 flush. If it's a blank value bet or ship no?
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08-18-2015 , 06:25 PM
River is a c/f. Villain will likely check back every hand unless he has the k or ace of spades. He would definitely check back a weaker jack. Even most of his "bluffs" like 88 or 77 with a spade now beat us. 1-2 villains are simply not bluffing enough in this spot to be bluff catching.

If he bets lol 35 or something then just call it off. But hero has to fold to a big bet here.
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08-18-2015 , 06:28 PM
Even if river was a blank I would likely c/f to a big bet. Most opponents do not get tricky on paired boards, and definitely don't get tricky when the flush gets there. I have lost so much money in the past calling off these bets because I level myself into thinking that villain is making a great play taking advantage of their position. Everytime I call it off they always have it. Just fold and save the $.
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08-19-2015 , 07:11 AM
+1 to x/r flop and then lead turn.

As played on flop b/f turn.

As played on turn x/f river.
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