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1/2 NL 400 BB pot with top pair and 2nd NFD 1/2 NL 400 BB pot with top pair and 2nd NFD

06-22-2014 , 01:06 AM
Hero: Late 20's, generally TAG with tendencies to loosen up in short handed games. Never lost at the game I'm playing in, other players have commented about this.

V1: One of the "owners" of the game, Kazakh, heavy Russian accent, generally spewy and willing to jam with wide range and minimal holdings. Has commented that I only raise preflop.

V2: probably early 40's black guy ,from London, he's a lawyer and usually buys in for $500 at a time in this 1/2 game. Seems like he's aware of some general concepts, but enjoys the gambool aspect of poker more so. Button straddles for $10 every time he can

7 handed

Hero: $375
V1: $120
V2: $600

Hero Dealt: K10
I open the action from UTG +1 to $10 (standard open)
V1 calls in MP and V2 calls from BB and one other random guy who doesnt matter called in some point in here

Flop: ($40)
943

Both V1 and V2 are pretty stationy, so I opt to check after V2 checks, then V1 shoves all in for $90. Rando folds, then back to V2, our lawyer friend. After tanking for about 30 secs, he just calls. Him and V1 have a history of calling eachother's smaller all in's just for fun, even with just high cards and like to run it out. So with two overs and a flush draw I decide to smooth leaving me with approximately $280 behind and plan to bomb all K's 10's and clubs on turn and no other plan besides that. (bad plan I know)

Turn: ($310) 10

This card gives me top pair and I still have 2nd NFD here, a pretty good card. I figure I'm pretty ahead of villain 2's range here as I think he has a lot of suited connectors here, like 9 8, 9 10, and possibly some sets thrown in there with 33, 44, 99 in addition to 55 +. He's had no problem getting it in with pairs on small boards in the past. V2 then declares all-in after about 20 secs and a very subtle sigh. I've got about $280 behind to win the $600 in the middle now.

Hero?
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06-22-2014 , 01:15 AM
You got one of your cards you wanted what's the problem??? Call maybe your behind but I think you gotta stick to your plan otherwise your burning you 90 otf. Sucks you lost
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06-22-2014 , 01:51 AM
You cannot make money when you call an AI pot bet on the flop and only have a draw.

Hero Dealt: K10

Flop: 943

You are behind to even the worthless 23. Like 45% vs 55% when you got to call all-in without implied odds. ..., lol...lol...,

Drawings only shows profit in multi-way pots with deep stacks behind. Else are worthless in NL....,

How complicated that could be?
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06-22-2014 , 02:55 AM
Yeah. As i called i was thinking I butchered the hand. I normally don't play this fishy, but man, just let this one get away from me.
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06-22-2014 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Octavian
You cannot make money when you call an AI pot bet on the flop and only have a draw.

Hero Dealt: K10

Flop: 943

You are behind to even the worthless 23. Like 45% vs 55% when you got to call all-in without implied odds. ..., lol...lol...,

Drawings only shows profit in multi-way pots with deep stacks behind. Else are worthless in NL....,

How complicated that could be?
The more time you spend on these forums the more you'll realize who to listen to, and who to ignore.
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06-22-2014 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BuffaloHound
The more time you spend on these forums the more you'll realize who to listen to, and who to ignore.
Yeah, I didnt really appreciate that guy's response, given that this is supposed to be a place to get help. But I guess everyone has to flex their prowess somewhere.
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06-22-2014 , 03:40 AM
How wide do your Villains realize you're opening from EP? How aware are they?
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06-22-2014 , 04:04 AM
The turn is a trivial shove. You have way too much equity to fold, and you might have the best hand.

The more interesting decision is the flop. A strong argument could be made for shoving the flop, especially if you were reading weakness from V2's flat call.
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06-22-2014 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BuffaloHound
How wide do your Villains realize you're opening from EP? How aware are they?
V1 I don't think really pays attention to opening ranges too much, he's much more rec player. V2 is definitely a thinking player, but he hasn't shown THAT much aptitude for the game from what I've seen. He has was more gambool in him than the avg player, which led me to snap off his shove on the turn. he had 44, river brick, gg me.

I may be too results oriented here, but I just feel vs this villain im happily getting in there on the turn.

As for the flop, in my head it was really only a fold/call scenario at the time, but I see the merits of shoving if I think he's willing to stack off with a random nine here
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06-22-2014 , 07:10 AM
Just shove the flop...
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06-22-2014 , 07:13 AM
You have 15 outs that are clean the great majority of the time (12 are at absolute minimum, giving you a coin flip at worst vs the majority of V's range). Just jam the flop.
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06-22-2014 , 09:01 AM
K-10s is a little loose from this pos to open given that not all players are as deep as we are(some 60BB stacks in game). To mix it up for balance from EP I prefer suited connectors(78s+) and occasionally suited one gappers(K-Js+).
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