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08-13-2018 , 03:40 PM
290 effective stacks
I have AJo in mp
I am a LAG and am trying to run over the table, I play with many of these players often and they are passive and let me do whatever I want

Villain raises to 10 UTG+2
He previously didn’t raise ATo in lp with multiple limpers

1 passive player calls

I raise to 25, I know it’s sized down because I expect to get 4 bet often and I want to be the aggressor even though my hand is behind Vs range

Both V and passive player call.

Flop
J67r
V bets 6 into 75, passive player folds I make it 50
He calls

Turn 3c, brings 2 clubs, pot is 175

I move all in for 215.

He folds QJs face up.
Ouch, apparently this is a horrible bet and I am only getting called by AJ or better.

Thoughts?
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08-13-2018 , 04:04 PM
You expect passive players to 4bet you often in a 1/2 game? I don't mind a smaller squeeze size but this particular size seems kind of pointless. With value you'll want to go bigger and with speculative stuff you'll want to call so I don't know how this size will fit into the overall strategy.

Maybe raise smaller on the flop and bet smaller on the turn next time. When he leads for $6 you can be pretty confident in your hand and don't have to blow him away.
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08-13-2018 , 04:07 PM
This preflop sizing just isn't good. If you're bluffing, why are you giving him a chance to call you?

As played, yes that's a horrible turn bet. What are you afraid of? You make a 1.2x pot bet in a spot where you're repping overpairs and you're surprised he hero folded a Jack?
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08-13-2018 , 04:10 PM
Pre is burning money. The rest is fine.
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08-13-2018 , 04:47 PM
My goal pre was to 1) cap his range and 2) prevent limpers behind

He is 100% 4 betting my weak ass 3 bet with QQ+ and AK so I save money by not having to go postflop against those monsters and when he just calls AJo is way ahead.

Also I haven’t thought too much about this hand yet, but my current thought is to just jam this turn w/ AK because the only hands he calls with is AJ and KJ which I would block. He has to call once every three times I make this bet for me to break even, so I could probably include some combo draws too.
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08-13-2018 , 06:04 PM
You are not "way ahead" of his calling range pre. Pre is a bit spewy.

AJo vs. {JJ-22,AQs-ATs,KTs+,QTs+,AQo-AJo,KQo} is 48.2% equity pre-flop. With this sizing you have very little fold equity, you can get 4-bet and lose 12.5BB, and when you get called you are at an equity disadvantage. If both players call with similar ranges, you're a slightly worse equity dog multiway.

1|2 players are incredibly bad at adjusting. Someone who thinks you are running them over is more inclined to flat strong hands pre, IMO, and a lot of players don't even 3-bet AK, let alone 4-bet it. I can't count how many times I've seen QQ+ slow-played pre-flop, also.

If you are correct that neither villain has QQ+, then they have very few hands that can beat TPTK. Against the above range, you have the best hand 92% of the time against one player, so about 85% of the time against two. You have a pretty fat value hand.

Because the second player folded to the silly $6 bet, the burden of defense rests solely on the donk bettor. He probably doesn't do this with total air much, but I'd guess he wouldn't do this with a set either? If he is folding QJ to this line, I suspect he's folding most of his range and you could bluff him profitably with any two.

The main adjustment to make against players like this is to bluff them more and value bet less. You could also try sizing smaller for value in similar situations. Don't feel too bad about getting QJs to fold, because you're able to bluff him off the best hand quite often.
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08-13-2018 , 07:04 PM
Behind villain’s LP opening range, so 3bet his EP opening range

Hmm
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08-13-2018 , 07:05 PM
Why on earth would you want your opponent to blow you off your equity?

What if he makes it like 55 against this raise? Just going to fold now? Why not just take a flop and play poker in position?

Edit: or even fold pre.
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