So last night I was waiting for a seat on 5/10 PLO and decided to play some 1/2 NL till then...gosh I'm not used to live NLHE so boring!

Anyways HERO max bought in for $300 and now has about $400

UTG hero is dealt KsQc and opens for $12. This raise size seems optimal as people always just make it 5 as a pot buulder etc...
5 callers blinds fold.

fLop comes $63

T75r

Everyone as this table is fairly weak tight so I know we should x/fold flop here in a fishy game but I can't handle such boredom anymore so we bet $38

An older black lady(not being racist) calls (covers us) I assume she has some sort of a draw or 7x since people here always raise top pairs. But a old white gentlemen ($200 ish behind) calls as well and we plan to give up

Turn A no flush possible. $ 177

I think this is a good card for us and we also pick up a gutshot and I think any V woulda raised AT on flops due to the dynamic of the game...

So we bet $90, lady calls, gentlemen folds. Plan to give up now.

River comes 5...
board runs T75A5 $ 257 we have $255 behind...

We check, she thinks for 15 seconds and jams and covers us...

Hero????????

Lol fold

I hate folding

umm this is a pretty clear call. am i missing something?

Elaborate??

fyp

Level? Hope so

C'mon guys serious answers

Snap that off. Obviously missed draw.

Am I missing something? Are we putting her on the only draw 98? I mean it seems like you don't care about the stakes you are at so sure call. Doesn't mean if is sensible or good.

I suppose ur thought process is that it's a polorarizing bet and it has to be monsters or bluffs(on the serious side). Problem is there aren't enough bluffs in her range as there are full houses. So if you don't care about the stakes and you are getting 2/1 and she is bluffing often enough with complete air call. My opinion is check fold flop.

Snap fold.

Or you could Hollywood tank fold and show it for table image.

It must be fun playing poker with ADHD.

Many older folks have the perception (sometimes rightly) that the young kids are bluff machines. Her flop play does not matter. She'll show you her Ax with a warm smile.

Product of internet play. If they can't change gears to live play they blow off their roll.

Anyways I thought through it for 2 minutes...no hand made sense so I called and she tabled 68 for missed OESD. Then I showed KQ and everyone was like wtf??

I think some people have it right...for 1/2 I think it's a call people don't value bet thin here and they also don't slow play stuff because they are scared to get outdrawn

Nobody bluffs missed draws at $1/2, especially old black ladies.

Maybe this should go in bbv.

Big winner... but that call was terrible

The play of the hand was atrocious with the possible exception of the call on the river....

KQo full ring live easy fold under the gun...without a read like supper tight table small blind is supper loose $10 raise likely to isolate him...then its a maybe raise...

Flop...in position great board to Cbet multi way planning to double barrel a ton of the deck...here oop bad play....

Turn A and you got 2 callers...oop don't like...with one caller maybe....and I don't know where your playing but on a rainbow board players slow play big hands all the time... few raise top pair...maybe 5 years ago they did...but they sure don't in my games today.

River...given how the hand went down...might be an ok call...but most players don't bluff big at 1-2 after the original player showed tons of strength...


And finally live poker is not a boring game at all....my god all the information you can get hand after hand is exhausting not boring. Of course if the only reason you play poker is for the thrill of gambling...many casino's offer alternative games in which you can play ever hand....

Racist.

(Also, I think you're mistaken that they'll raise top pair. As a rule, I'd say they'll BET top pair, but raising to $75 or more isn't a JT/QT move imo.)

Wow... This forum is full just harassment...I play PLO live and that's why I said 1/2nlhe was boring. I'm done here wasteful comments.

If you have anything to say about the hand reply, otherwise gtfo

Pretty big leak that you had to tank for 2 minutes. Shuold have beat her into the pot.

*grunch*

Preflop is your best street. All three options are fine depending on the table. Given the table conditions, raising is fine.

Flop: it's stupid to c-bet into so many players. Check/fold.

Turn: Give up.

River: check/fold.

I honestly thought you were probably trolling us. I'm still not that sure you're being serious.

In any case, pf is meh (I'd fold) but its not a big deal if you raise. It's probably okay IMO. Flop is an obvious c/f. I'm not doing anything besides checking and folding after the flop. River is an easy fold (which is why I wasn't sure you were serious).

I wouldn't call it a good card. You mention picking up a gutshot but it can easily kill our outs to top pair and a lot of people call flops with an ace. You don't raise KQ pf hoping for an ace to show up after the flop.

Oh, and making a move because you're bored is a pretty big leak. That's what bad players do.

I was a 100% serious also I guess I should mention based on my reads and the villains reactions to the turn I felt no one liked the A...

And yeah we should x/f flop I mentioned that...I was just baffled by how I got myself to the river then ended up feeling I was good.