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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Curious as to if you and others think a flop bet 4-ways is profitable here, because I'm not sure it is given rake considerations. I think we have to find a check here somewhere and flop seems best on a dry + rainbow texture like this where we don't have to protect against much.
I would say I find being able to Cbet frequently brings a lot of value from picking up orphan pots. Knowing your opponents makes for easier (though not always easy) decisions on later streets. Most often you'll be against a station and you can value bet or just check it down, and not have to worry too much about balancing as most stations are unaware. The check downs you're losing your PF and flop bets, but more than making up for it when picking up orphan pots and value spots.
When not up against a station after the flop I force them into mistakes when they think I play them the same way I play a station. One of the best ways to do this is c/c'ing down light once or twice. Or mixing in an appropriate c/r. Most of the time the aware players start to stay out of my way and pick easier targets, which means they are mostly straightforward when they are sticking around against me. Its not as easy as playing the stations, but its still pretty easy.
Sometimes I do run into an aware player who's sticky against me in particular, but then that's often pretty easy as well. I value bet them like a station AND mix in light call downs. Some sessions I win more money from sticky TAGs than stations. Harder to navigate sometimes but still lucrative.