Hero AA first to act.

Raise 15 dollars, get called by 5 players.

Flop qc 10h 2d.

Bet 35 dollars.

I get 1 caller heads up.

This one caller is kind of a fish, calls big bets light. I had not played with him that long but I have seen him call big pre flop raises with marginal hands.

Turn 7d

I bet 45, villain calls.

River 2c.

I check, villain bets $65.

Hero?

I never like when the board pairs when you have AA.

It seems like a sucker bet, it seems like a bet villain wants me to call. How often can I expect to be good here? Do you just sigh and call and hope they have top pair with a good kicker?


I am aware that you may have other comments on how to play the whole hand better too which I welcome.

lol @ 5 players call UTG 7x open. That’s live 1/2 for ya.

Bet bigger on the turn and barrel river for value. AP, call. Not sure why that deuce concerns you.

Stack sizes and actual positions might be useful information.

This too

Stack sizes at the beginning, 100 bb.

Actual positions, I was utg, villain was utg +2.

The reason the deuce concerns me is because now all my opponent needs is 1 deuce and I lose. Honestly, if I didn’t have work in the morning I would have stayed and played with this guy as long as he would play. He was a really awful player.

He overcalled an UTG open and a flat so QQ very unlikely TT is 50/50, all the 22 are in there.

He calls 1/3 multiway many people to act behind so reduces sets as they might put in a small raise, but calling isn’t out of the question so I’d say it
only reduces it by a small margin.

Turn you bet very small like almost a quarter and he just calls again. By this time people w/ sets and two pair are going to raise to get more money in
the middle plus the board is starting to become more connected and a FD is there. So I lean towards he has Qx and Tx hands w/ some KJ/J9.

River is a brick and actually very good for you since now you beat QT, Q7, T7 in case he had any of those however unlikely.

Now you check so your hand looks quite weak on this line like maybe a poorly played AK that is now giving up or maybe JJ or AT.

Now he’s betting 60% of his stack on the river making a quarter pot river bet, this is either some terrible bluff or he’s betting something like QJ or KQ for value.
Easy jam for the rest.

As for the rest of the streets I would have either bet the turn bigger or checked.

After getting 5 callers and a less than ideal flop that's a fantastic result.

Flop can be a check but I don't mind a small bet at all, people sat there with Qx won't bet themselves. Getting just a single caller (and not getting raised) is a fantastic result.

If you're up against a fish then turn bet is fine.

River is a really good card. Makes it less likely you're up against a slow played 22, and you're now beating the main hand you would be scared of (QT). As there wasn't a front door flush draw I would be inclined to think you're still up against Qx a lot and would bet small again. As with the flop, don't expect top pair to do the betting for you.

I'm guessing he had some weird random hand like J2 and you lost. But check folding the river is highly regarded.

This is just not how you should be thinking or else you're just going to get destroyed and become one of these weak tight nits that lose to the rake unless they sun run and cooler everyone.

Well, I am a somewhat conservative player. I wouldn’t classify myself as a nit but I can be a bit nitty in certain situations.

This is one of the best river cards in the deck for you. Don't be results oriented. Villain should never have a 2 here.

On the river you are calling $65 to win a pot of $300. If you do the math here, that means you need to win this pot 18% of the time for this to be a winning call. There is no way you can even think about folding getting this price.

I would just jam the river myself. The jam is for $105 into a pot of $235. A fish will not fold Qx (probably not even Tx) if you jam, but they might check it back after you check which is really bad for you.

This river mentality is more accurately classified as “MUBS” (monsters under the bed syndrome). Irrationally worried about the worst case scenario holdings without really deducing their likelihood based on the information you have.

Yes V can have any random hand that connects with this board to beat AA, but if 62 concerns you, what action and runout would make you more confident without holding the nuts yourself?

7x open from UTG gets 5 calls.

Geezus.

PRE - open bigger. I don't know how much bigger, but whatever the standard open is, if it's getting 5 callers, double that amount.

Who were the 5 callers? Were the SB and BB in there?

FLOP - There's like $90 in the pot, and 3 or 5 opponents behind you? I probably check, to let someone behind stab at it, and call. C-betting a little over 1/3 pot is also fine. Whatever. It's 1/2, and your 7x raise got 5 callers, so it's basically bingo.

TURN - You're heads-up, the turn is a brick, V didn't raise the flop, and there's $160 in the pot? You almost certainly have the best hand. Bet 1.5x pot, so $240. Let's see how much V really likes his hand.

RIVER - V should have folded to a turn over-bet with any hand that isn't at least Qx. If he's still here after my turn OB, I jam.

As played, with that tiny turn bet, that allows V to continue with any pair or draw, sure, go ahead and check-call. If he got here with 2P or better, and played it this way, he's just going to get my money.

You beat all the 2 pairs and villain hardly has any money behind.

On the turn, there is 160 in the pot with 150 behind, so it seems OK to bet 60 OTT and 90 on the river, or just shove the turn. Maybe it was really a little deeper than what OP said. You could be behind, getting 5 callers, but you have get the money in.

The check on the river seems really bad, even if it saved a little. It seems really unlikely he would call down with just a 2. If the 2 helped him, he should have been already ahead. All the other two pairs got counterfeited.

I would definitely reload if I was the shorter stack, as villain is an awful calling station.

From a theory standpoint you like the duece. It's his least likely pair, and it flips any other 2 pair he's holding into your hand being good. If you run the math against random hands becuase honestly at this point that is what they have your hand improves vs. 2 hands when river is a 2 vs a 4 for example.

As for the rest of it, I feel your pain.

My bad. I meant trip 2's or better.

I'm just reading the OP. There were no stack sizes or pot sizes on any street. I'm not here to do other people's math homework for them, nor do I want to go back and do it when the starting stack info gets posted later.

These "I raised >6x at 1/2 and got >4 callers" hands hurt my head. I don't know how to range bad recs playing 1/2 like it's bingo. V could have Qx, Tx, J9, KJ, AXdd, or apparently something as crazy as 62.

Hero raised 7x from UTG and 5 people called. The hand is off the rails from the jump. Somehow, we got heads-up to the turn, and it's a brick. If we have 1.5x pot or less left behind, just jam. I don't need to know how much it is, exactly.

The salient point is don't look at V's stack and think "I'll bet 30% pot, then jam river for 40% pot" when V is a loose player who is apparently playing any two cards, and the board has both a front door straight draw and back door flush draw.

Our hand is more than likely best on the turn. There are a lot of river cards we're going to hate. I want to get as much money in on the turn as possible. If the pot is $160, and we have less than that, let's jam it in V's face.

Don't worry about the result. Reload, call out of work or at least resign to the fact that your getting little sleep tonight and stay at this table as long as he is there. Your bb/hr will thank you for putting in as much time with this guy as possible.

1. The board pairing typically helps you. It's far more likely that the board paired and doesn't hit his name than otherwise. That saves you against random 2 pair hands. Let's say he had q10. He had 2 pair. Doesn't know what he's doing so he doesn't bet it up. He's thinking he's good and you'll bet because you have KK or AQ. The board now pairs, you now have the best two pair hand.

2. Given what's in the post, how often do you have to be correct to call him and be profitable?

The deuce counterfeits his top two hands and we scoop the pot it was a good card for you. There's also very few deuces in his total range too. I would call the river as played.

If you're staying late just to get revenge on a certain player, that's a pretty huge leak that you need to fix immediately. If he showed you his cards preflop you would want him to call anyway so what's the big deal? There are tons of other players just like him of whom you'll get your $$ back anyway they're all one and the same and will always be in games 24/7.

I think shoving and calling are close. He’s going to crying call with Qx so I probably go for it all.

That is a great river card. All draws missed. You are only beaten by a deuce or a set, which becomes a boat. It is probably a shove, but I can't tell exactly how deep we are. If you are check/calling, it is to induce a bluff, mainly from a missed draw. We aren't deep enough to check/call for pot control.

Misplayed on all street by villain. Probably misplayed on turn and river by hero.