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03-25-2015 , 12:00 AM
Straddle is on this hand and Hero is the BB with $240, V1 is the SB with $210 and V2 is Straddler with $240.

We are fairly new and have been active so far at the table, so our image may be loose or aggressive, but we are in our second orbit at the table max so no real reads on the opponents.

Hero: QdJd

One limp for $4, V1 opens to $15 and Hero calls, Straddler calls and limper folds out.

Flop: 10d 3d 4h (Pot: $50)

V1 opens for $25, Hero calls and Straddler calls.

Turn: 9d (Pot: $125)

V1 checks, Hero bets out $40 (1/3 pot), Straddler calls; V1 takes a moment and jams for $160 all in.

Hero?

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Different table, Hero has $260 in SB; Villain has $270 in middle position.

Reads: Hero and Villain have history from a previous session; reads on Villain are that he may be a spaz, not a great player by any stretch, very aggressive and takes weird lines and calls many, many hands with all sorts of hands so range is a bit wide. But has potential for some competency and has gotten better of Hero in the past (no big pots, below $100).

Hero: QQ

Four people limp, including Villain in middle position; Hero raises to $18, BB calls, two limpets fold and Villain takes a good long while here. Seems ready to just make the call, postures, then makes a big switch from chips in his hand to call and uses opposite hand to push in a big stack of reds. Bet turns out to be a raise to $130. Action's folded to Hero and BB has already gestured for a fold, but has not done it yet.

Hero: ???

Last edited by BP2991; 03-25-2015 at 12:23 AM.
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03-25-2015 , 12:08 AM
first hand you only have one diamond in your hand right? just fold its a turn check shove youre often drawing dead unless hes turned a low flush even then u cant cali

hand 2 i would snap jam on this tard hes not doing this with KK. AA because he clearly wants you to fold with this sizing...he's pissed at you for some reason... make him more pissed

Last edited by Alexandar; 03-25-2015 at 12:15 AM.
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03-25-2015 , 12:10 AM
1. Fold pre, bet turn bigger, snap call now.

2. Need more info on his pre flop tendencies. If he 3bets light, jam it. If not, it's probably a fold. Sizing is weird and he's a spaz so I'm probably jamming but many people at 1/2 only have KK+ here.
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03-25-2015 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
1. Fold pre, bet turn bigger, snap call now.

2. Need more info on his pre flop tendencies. If he 3bets light, jam it. If not, it's probably a fold. Sizing is weird and he's a spaz so I'm probably jamming but many people at 1/2 only have KK+ here.
hand 1 he only has one diamond im pretty sure... calling is suicide
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03-25-2015 , 12:23 AM
Sorry for the misunderstanding

First hand is QdJd. We have third nut flush (and up-and-down straight flush draws, too).
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03-25-2015 , 12:23 AM
BP,

Hand 1 raise flop to 75 or jam 225.

Hand 2 jam 242 over 130 they're already married to their hand and you're probably good so far.
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03-25-2015 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
BP,

Hand 1 raise flop to 75 or jam 225.

Hand 2 jam 242 over 130 they're already married to their hand and you're probably good so far.
I actually love the idea of jamming there now that I think of it, I hadn't even considered it and I'm ashamed to say that. I very nearly raised, though, but I talked myself out of it. I'm not sure of what's more profitable (raise or jam) on the flop though; any thoughts on which is better?

Matzah, I haven't played a significant amount with the player (maybe two hours, so 50-60 hands) for Hand #2 and I wasn't paying attention that day besides for the hands we partook in when I did get to play with him. No real reads on his 3-bet range, a few raise-bluffs on flops where people "c-betted" he said and silly spews and consistent (40%+ of hands) limping, but I also got the feeling he wasn't complete incompetent for some reason. The sizing is super weird, but I am also caught up in most people having KK+ here regardless of previous reads.

I jammed, though, regardless.

He was super pleased and snap called with AA, but I flopped the Q and took it down.
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03-25-2015 , 01:24 AM
so is hand 1 a troll or something, were you considering folding
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03-25-2015 , 01:32 AM
Hand #1? No trolling here haha. It was a weird spot, to me anyway. I was just curious what people do differently in that situation from PF to finish. I don't really like how I played it retrospectively, I let a few previous hands in the orbit stop me from semi-bluffing/raising, but the lead-out on the flop followed by the check-shove on the turn screamed strength to me - it just felt very weird with the dynamics of SB/BB/Straddler altogether. And I had no history with V1 at all, but he was a middle-aged (40s/early 50s) gentlemen who had an idea of what he was doing it seemed. I called ofcourse and V1 showed up with AdKd (gross lol) and V2 called with a set and thought he was priced-in to call. River bricked, no 8d (no boat either), which is a shame as Borgata is running a high-hand special right now and I would've picked up an additional $250 just for getting the straight-flush.

I don't think I ever get away from this (the guy could just as easily have had 8d6d and be terrible and think he's being smart by check-shoving), but I was also wondering if folding is a real consideration there either as played.
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03-25-2015 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BP2991
... Villain takes a good long while here. Seems ready to just make the call, postures, then makes a big switch from chips in his hand to call and uses opposite hand to push in a big stack of reds.
Seems like a tell-box broadcasting strength.
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03-25-2015 , 01:39 AM
you seem semi scared money, i guess i mightve been the same way 3 years at 1/2 as one tome i remeber folding a q high flush in a similar spot, but i guess now that ive played hundreds of 2k+ pots i insta put it in.

also easy raise on the flop with QJdd. lots of weak players at 1/2 who we can bluff out with this monster flop. now that we got there we jam it in as there are a ton of lower flushes and sets we beat

hand 2 because of the dynamic its an easy all in. against a lot of nits we could fold this at a typical 1/2 table but because of your description its an easy stack off
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03-25-2015 , 01:42 AM
To be fair, I usually raise the flop, but I had just done the very same thing with A9h a few hands earlier in a 1v1 situation and took down a pot so I sillily was switching it up (as if it was noticed a few hands earlier, which I'm sure it wasn't).
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