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03-18-2023 , 07:44 PM
Been running insanely bad for 400 hours or so. Most of it is so obviously just bad luck I don't even bother posting hands. Today, I had some hands where I thought I might have misplayed. Hoping for some feedback. Probably pretty simple spots, but........

Both hands are $1/2 (8 handed)

Hand 1:

V1 - 20s Middle Eastern Guy. Looks smart. Talks smart. I played with him once before for about an hour or so. Seems like a winning, competent player. He's aggressive overall. I've seen him bet several rivers big where it was obvious that his opponent didn't have a strong hand. He'll check-raise top pair on the flop head's up against the pre-flop raiser. He'll check-raise draws. He probably raises preflop in the 25% range. He'll limp-call pretty light pre and try to outplay people post flop.

Hero - Viewed by villain as a tight player. He saw hero play a hand he 3-bet pre-flop with QQ and checked down on an AKxxxx board. We've never played a hand together.

Just got put at this table after my table broke.


Hero ($235) opens to $10 UTG with QQ (suits irrelevant)
V2 (MAWW....bad rec. $250) flats in MP
V1 ($400) 3-bets on the button to $35
Hero calls
V2 calls.

Flop ($100)
662r
Checks to V1 who bets $60
Hero shoves for $200

I don't for sure, but suspect this villain has a wider pre-flop 3-betting than most $1/2 players. I'm thinking 12 combos of AA/KK and maybe 30 combos of AK/JJ/TT/Air.
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Hand 2:
Villain is a 40 year old white guy. Looks like a typical rec, but he's new to the table. I played one hand with him. I raised pre-flop with TT. Board was 8646ss. I bet flop 4-way and shoved the turn 3-way. He folded an 8 face up.

Villain ($150) - hero covers

V opens to $10 from MP
SB calls
Hero 3-bets to $45 with AcQh
Only V calls

Flop ($85):
762, all hearts
Hero shoves for $105
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03-18-2023 , 10:42 PM
hand 1 i 4 bet pre. given that you didnt 4 bet pre id c/c the flop. c/ring just folds out his bluffs and gets called by mostly better hands.

hand 2 is ok although id slightly prefer betting 1/3 pot on flop and shoving any turn.
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03-18-2023 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NittyOldMan1

hand 2 is ok although id slightly prefer betting 1/3 pot on flop and shoving any turn.
Why?
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03-18-2023 , 11:15 PM
Hand 1 I would ship pre. Hand 2 looks fine.
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03-19-2023 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by curdanol
Why?
because 1) thats what id do with my entire cbetting range on this board and 2) when i get called i want to be called by a range i have favorable equity against
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03-19-2023 , 10:08 PM
I guess hand 1 is also villain reading question. He showed up with AA here. I just assumed that because he was aggressive in other spots that he probably had a wider 3-betting range pre. Maybe that's not true.

Do you infer a 3-betting range pre based on an overall villain profile or do you just always assume 3-bets are AA/KK in $1/2 until proven otherwise?

QQ always going broke here?
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03-20-2023 , 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by curdanol
Do you infer a 3-betting range pre based on an overall villain profile or do you just always assume 3-bets are AA/KK in $1/2 until proven otherwise?

QQ always going broke here?
BTN vs. UTG 8+ handed should be pretty tight anyway, caller in the middle would make it tighter ... I wouldn't 4bet pre. or shove flop, you gift him the option to fold all the hands you are way in front of. Flop pot size is only 80, which makes the 60 look a lot stronger and less likely AK IMO.
QQ def. loses money, but hard to say if you need to lose all 100bb after only an hour of playing with someone.


Hand 2 I don't mind with Qh, Ah obviously better but I'm not folding two overs and Q high flush draw for 1 SPR ... 3+ SPR I check a lot more, incl. this hand.
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