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1/2-KQ top pear facing heat.. 1/2-KQ top pear facing heat..

06-16-2013 , 03:37 AM
1/2 home game.. lots of history among most everyone at the table. villains all call too wide of with no respect to stack sizes, little concept of relative hand strength.

main V- not afraid to bluff if he thinks he can take down the pot. little regard for position. in the past ive seen him slowplay his strong hands over multiple streets even when he was aggressor. calls to wide pf esp oop, sticky post flop... only one notable hand was early on where hero flopped TP and my line was B/cd, ch/ch ,ch/B/cd with me picking off villains river bluff. another thing ive noticed in past sessions is V will take a hand with signiff showdown value and turn it into a bluff OTT or OTR.

anyway onto the hand

3 villains limp in..

Hero($500) dealt KcQc in the CO, raises to 22,

Button ($145) calls, SB calls, Villain ($200ish) calls from BB, rest fold

Pot: $90
Flop: Q 6 5

Checks to hero, Hero bets $45, Btn folds, sb folds, Villain shoves for $180 ( 135 more)

Hero:??

addtnl reads- when action was on V otf, he seemed as if he wasnt paying attn and was like "Oh, check" real innocently,

im stuck because ive seen him often try and slow play his monster hands, and this board is pretty dry aside from OESD, so then is he fast playing a lesser TP? or TPTK? or something else?
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06-16-2013 , 03:52 AM
It seems like all of the factors that you mentioned swing this toward a call. If your description is correct hell show up with absurd holdings like 88 enough.

Especially if he would 3bet AQ and over pairs pre.
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06-16-2013 , 12:41 PM
What is the read on you? That's pretty meaningful.
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06-16-2013 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sief
. another thing ive noticed in past sessions is V will take a hand with signiff showdown value and turn it into a bluff
Is villain stuck/and or tilting? Given description i'm probably calling.

Pot size is wrong. Going to the flop it's 72 not 90
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06-16-2013 , 01:13 PM
I would call given stack/pot sizes.
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06-16-2013 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by andees10

Pot size is wrong. Going to the flop it's 72 not 90
22 ( my open) x4(3 callers +me)+3 limpers x 2= 94 correct pot size

my mistake

and to answer ur other question.. he was down a little bit i think. maybe $100. didnt appear to be tilting too hard. wasnt spazzing on any hands prior.

Last edited by Sief; 06-16-2013 at 05:32 PM.
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06-16-2013 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rumor
What is the read on you? That's pretty meaningful.
thats a tough question...ive absolutely crushed this game for awhile. despite this i have a pretty awful image to most players here.

in this situation here i normally dont cbet air into 3 players but i would cbet draws and sometimes this allows them to think im just pressing buttons and could possibly put me on air here.

this session in particular i have shown up with the goods in a few big hands and otherwise had been playing fairly straightforward. raising a pretty tight range..

he also might have me on having exactly what i do have or an overpair and simply thinks im going to auto-call off.

on the other hand.. like i mentioned in OP he acted super nonchalant about checking but then pretty much snap shoves on me. also while i was tanking he seemed pretty relaxed. i dunno tho.. could be false tells, hollywood or w.e just painting the whole picture i guess.

another problem i faced with this hand.. i had a hard time putting him on a range.. if he had been the only caller i could be a little more certain... i feel like hes calling J10-AK broadways, sooted connectors, PPs, while 3betting QQ+
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06-16-2013 , 05:40 PM
Between his innocent "oh, I check" on the flop and the shove, this an easy fold. TPGK is beat here nearly always.
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06-16-2013 , 06:04 PM
Given villians image, mannerisms, and range, I'm calling, and expecting to see 78, 47, and 34 most of the time. 135 to win 189. But I'm tank/calling running through every scenario. Only a small amount of times I'm really folding here against this villain. If villain is the type to bluff draws otf, then yes I'm calling, but the stacks are short, and I can see villain making a move with an oe. He would just call with a set, so we can probably eliminate those. You're losing to two pair, and that's about it, seeming how more than likely he would 3b AQ. Call and feel good/o.k. about it.
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