Played 1/2 down @ my local casino today and got into an interesting hand and just wanted to gather the collective wisdom of 2+2 on how to play it.

Hero($850): I've been playing a TAG style during the session. Made it to showdown 2 times with the best of it. Once I raised AKo in the SB to $18 got one caller, flop is K97r I check, player shoves all in for $147, I call he turns over KQo and I scoop. Played a MW-pot vs two mega-fish in position with J9o flop came QT8ss got all in on a king river (no spades hit) player turns over Ks8s and I scoop.
V1($450): Has been very loose and passive preflop, normally just calling and mixing in a raise to $12 about 10% of the time. Has been caught bluffing during the session and also backed into hands (originally bluffing and catching). Hero has played one pot with him so far where we called down with MP on a Q high board, he ended up having QTs and won.

Hero dealt KK UTG.

Hero raises to $11, fold, V1 calls in MP, 4 fold, BTN calls, blinds fold.

FLOP($36): 964

Hero bets $25, V1 thinks for about 10 seconds and raises to $50, BTN folds, Hero calls.

My rationale here was to just check/call and let villain spaz with stuff like TT-QQ, A9, or whatever smaller pairs he might have on the turn/river.

TURN($136): 9643

Hero checks, V1 bets $50, Hero calls.

RIVER($236): 96434

Hero checks, V1 bets $80, Hero calls.

Thoughts and analysis of post-flop play please, guys. Thanks!!

I think it was well played. You might have folded river, but his bet is so small otr, I'm OK with calling.
Btw Pot should be $136 OTT and $236 OTR.

Thanks for the comments and lol @ me not adding up the correct pot size... 10 hour sessions make simple math SUPER HARD >_<

Its an absolute call. He could be doing this with any overpair.
If he would shove, this would be uncomfortable.

better line - preflop $12+, flop pot-size bet and re-raise if villan raises. yes, he could have flopped a set but you're way too passive

I like the way you played this hand. I think by calling the flop raise you keep his range wider and allow him to think he's value betting 9x or some other single pair hand. I think a 3bet likely gets him to fold out all of his single pair hands as there's really no draws you can be repping.

This is about how I'd play it.

I like OP's line better than jamming 200BBs in on the flop.

Opponent dependent you will lose a lot of the hands you beat on the flop if you raise and most of them have little equity.

If villain checks back turn, obviously you bet river.

I think you played it fine. Def kept this bluff range wide throughout the hand. Nice way of pot-controlling OOP.

Grunch.

I think the line works good as-is.

That being said, I do think a slightly larger PF raise would be good for getting more value out of the PF and later streets (Something like $12-$14 PF. Larger pots = donks make more mistakes).

I like this line.

V is just not betting like they have a set of 4's or a straight on the river. If they did they took themselves to value town by not betting 2/3 of pot.

Raise the turn.

raise/fold i imagine, and to how much? need a little more info than just that.

My thoughts are get value and his turn bet is very weak as well as the turn completing alot of backdoor draws. From what I see of your history this villain is very likely to have backdoor draw with his sizing. I think if he comes over the check/raise it is pretty safe to assume your beat and lay it down. probably make it around $150 on turn folding to a raise and shoving most rivers.

Why are we check calling. We are deep you can't play a deep stack like this.

R/F otf, c/c just makes you lose more money when villain shove range is nutted hands.

When our villain's don't have a 4bet bluffing range we should exploit this with raise/folding for value.

I was check calling after the flop because the villain is an aggrodonk who might fold to aggression but would keep up the betting on the last two streets with a dominated hand. Also, I didn't check call the flop, I bet called the flop. I think that my major flaw was just check calling the turn bet. I agree with ozmo that we're raising for value and to see if he has a better hand, him shoving over my turn bet would be very strong. Also, just because I'm deep doesn't mean I need to play a big pot here considering I don't really have a big pot hand post flop. I did not improve, I still have one pair on a board where villain could show up with two pair, a set, straight draws, etc. Also the flop is pretty dry and villain is raising... what hands really raise this flop?

That is why you b/r. Which is a r/f for value if he has a set your crushed. When you call call and call the pot gets bigger then. R/f flop, again I can't stress this enough vs players who don't have a 4bet bluffing range.

You lose less if you do that. Calling all the way to the river just makes the pot huge.

I'd semi small 3 bet (maybe 40 or 50 on top)/fold the flop. what is his range here?

hands he will raise/call with QQ-TT, A9, possibly 9x, 87
hands he will raise/4B with 99, 66, 44, 96, 64
hands he will fold: gutshots, random cards possibly including an ace.

I think in this situation he calls with his dominated hands, folds his randoms, reraises with hands that dominate you. Only reason I wouldnt 3B is if you think he will 4B with 87, or with just stupid hands like TT.

after 3 betting flop, if he calls just check flop, he will probably check behind, and you can put in a 2/5ths to half pot bet on the river.

pot will be about just as big when you beat him, pot will be smaller in pots where you lose, hand will be over before he can spike an ace with his garbage. its win win win.

Does 3-bet/folding the flop make sense here guys?

He either took you to value town, made some pretty ill-advised consecutive street bluff, or inadvertently took himself to value town.

I have no issue with the way you played this, especially based on your impression of him.

Maybe if he bets 180+ on the river we'd have something to seriously think about.

Well played.

Why not? We are deep enough to let our hand go vs players who never 4bet bluff.

You have to be confident villain won't spazz out with a worse "value" hand.

I don't think you lose less by bloating the pot OOP. OP played the smallest pot he could here.

Even if we raise flop to $100 and it gets checked down..we just save the river bet here. In reality we will be folding incorrectly some and calling river incorrectly some if he calls and checks back turn.

Particularly as villain is described I think OP's line is the perfect combination of controlling potsize and getting good value out of villain.

I don't want to fold KK here.

I don't like a reraise on the flop. He's loose passive so he's probably not semibluffing with a draw. He's got an overpair or a set. With donks you really never know if he will stick with TT here or fold it to aggression.

He thinks he is good with whatever he holds so let him value town himself with overpairs if he has them, and I'd be glad he's letting us stay in so cheaply if he's full.

No need to worry about backdoor draws as he's not on too many.

I call the raise, call the turn, and snap the river.

Thanks for all the comments on the hand, guys. Villain here ended up having 66 for a flopped set and took me to value town... although it is apparent he's terrible as he doesn't know how to shovel money into the pot while way ahead. Anyways, ended up winning an all in pot vs a fish that just sat down about 10 minutes later, he stacked off with A9 vs my AT on an AhTh2s9c board.

I've been thinking about your comments pokahblow's and I really don't feel that the flop re-raise would have been necessary. Lets just think about what a re-raise does on the flop...

1. It now pushes out all hands that would be willing to bluff the turn and river. These are hands I think that I'm getting the most value from by letting villain take the driver's seat. If I re-raise the flop it isolates his playing back range to strictly nut hands, and I would have most likely lost more re-raising the flop than I would have by calling him down.
2. Re-raising the flop here is pretty bad. The SPR on the flop was 440/36, so ~12.2 which is way too high to be stacking off with just one pair.
3. I didn't have a big pot hand. The pot was not 3bet before the flop, therefore villains range is much wider than overpairs. It includes sets, two pairs, draws, etc.

I felt that by check/calling (which by the way is out of the norm for me considering I am a fairly aggressive player post-flop) would be my best way to extract value from whatever 9x/overpairs he might have had. I'm also not too sure what a turn raise would have accomplished minus telling me whether I had the best hand or not..

Hand played fine. 3betting flop is overplaying our hand without some read that villain will stack off with 9x/TT-QQ when we reraise him.