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(UTG +2) Villain I $1050: (New to table just joined very loose player given past history likely a fish)
(MP) Villain II $950: (Been active at table perceives hero to be tight/TAG and fit-or-fold some what, very loose in general)
(Button) Hero $1.4k: KK

Preflop: 2 limps, V1 raises to 10, V2 3-bets to 50, Hero 4-bets to 125, V1 cold calls 125, V2 calls (3-way to the flop)

Flop, Pot = 380
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V1 x, V2 lead jams all-in for 825 more, Hero...?

Based on prior hands he is likely VERY UNBALANCED HERE (his lead range) he will x-raise most/all of his value hands OTF. Also I don't see him having a leading range here tbh it shouldn't hit his 3-betting range hard except for JJ & 99. My hand/range is really face up basically i have KK or AA in my range obviously i can't mix in other hands to be balanced/unexploitable at this table given the players and such action (so it's hard to know if you are getting played @/messed with in these situations esp against a loose opp.).


In essence this is the top of my range here? or is AA the top and KK is the middle of my range? Should i ever fold here what do i do if i have AA in this spot?

I can't have any of the sets so this fishy V2 has the range advantage here... (but like i said the lead here by v2 is likely garbage just wasn't sure about as well about the whole sitch & v1 + stacking off with 1pair 400bb deep and that idk if im getting messed with here because my range is face up).

I snap call personally. He's overplaying AK a lot of times here, AQ as well.

He's doing this with flush draws as well as pocket tens. Maybe AJ or something .

Either way, I'm never folding, personally. This overbet shove just screams for me to call. He could be doing this with queens because he doesnt want to get "sucked out on" by the draws.

I'm never folding.

yeah, I agree that all of his value hands he would x/r, so that really ranges him pretty hard to the nut club draw with a couple of backdoors in there.

even with just that, he has pretty good equity against us, and we are just about flipping, so the question is, do you wanna flip for 2k?

me? I would call. unless that was like more than a quarter of my BR on the table. then I would fold.

Not a lot of experience playing 500BB poker, but his 2x pot overbet jam seems ridiculous to me regardless of his holding. The fact that you have such a tight range makes this a leveling war, and I'm not sure there's an easy answer except for your read that he x/r his strong hands. That argues strongly for a straightforward call, and if it were HU, that's absolutely what I'd do.

The problem I have is that the inclusion of V1 in the hand should affect V2's range. Is V2 really going to bluff like this against a "very loose player" who is "likely a fish"? This really makes me want to fold.

Do you think V2 has the same reads on V1 that you do?